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Old 01-10-2007, 01:09 AM
Kwaz Kwaz is offline
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Default I\'m flame proof.

Villian is a TAG over about 500 hands.

Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $3/$6
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB 3-bets</font>, BB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7SB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4.5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6.5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: 10.5BB
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Old 01-10-2007, 01:12 AM
27offsooot 27offsooot is offline
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Default Re: I\'m flame proof.

nm, i don't like the raise anymore... after he bets the river, his range is narrower, and i don't think u're ahead 50% when he calls.
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Old 01-10-2007, 01:16 AM
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Default Re: I\'m flame proof.

I'm not disagreeing with you here but why raise the river?
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Old 01-10-2007, 01:17 AM
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Default Re: I\'m flame proof.

Flop and turn seem fine. I personally just call the river. I think there isn't much value in raising the river, unless you have a read that SB will call some worse hands or fold a better one here.
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Old 01-10-2007, 01:17 AM
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Default Re: I\'m flame proof.

Hi Kwaz,

Reconstruct the hand from the beginning and tell me you entire range after you raise the river. How many of those raising hands are calling the 3bet and how many are folding?

This is the key to raise/folding and no one ever talks about it.
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Old 01-10-2007, 01:44 AM
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Default Re: I\'m flame proof.

There's a whole ton of worse hands that call the river raise but I have to agree with 27 that his range is much narrower when he bets the river.
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Old 01-10-2007, 01:45 AM
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Default Re: I\'m flame proof.

I'm talking about YOUR range.
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Old 01-10-2007, 02:35 AM
ILOVEPOKER929 ILOVEPOKER929 is offline
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Default Re: I\'m flame proof.

Absolutely terrible river raise. Kwaz, sometimes I wonder if you post these hands just cuz you know they drive me crazy.
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Old 01-10-2007, 03:56 AM
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Default Re: I\'m flame proof.

[ QUOTE ]
I'm talking about YOUR range.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm not sure what you're asking.

My range is gigantic. I raised on the button and have done nothing but call down until the river.
I could have 88, A6, flush, str8, king, 87....
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Old 01-10-2007, 04:14 AM
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Default Re: I\'m flame proof.

Your range after you raise on the button, call preflop, call this flop, call this turn, and raise the river. You can determine how many hands you can raise/fold and not be exploitable by comparing it to how many hands you raise/call at this "action node".
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