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Old 02-10-2006, 07:08 AM
DeathDonkey DeathDonkey is offline
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Default Too passive with TPTK? - 100/200

Villain here is like 30/24 (a decent amount of shorthanded in here so not awful actually) aggro postflop as well. Pretty much LAG TAG, tended to spew a bit but rarely vs me. He views me as very tight I'm sure. Is this too passive? Better plan?

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Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, MP folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (8.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks intending to call down...
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Old 02-10-2006, 07:17 AM
miami32 miami32 is offline
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Default Re: Too passive with TPTK? - 100/200

What do you think of a check raise and folding to a 3 bet?
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Old 02-10-2006, 07:20 AM
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Default Re: Too passive with TPTK? - 100/200

I think I would have to bet if he checked the turn behind.
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Old 02-10-2006, 07:24 AM
Josh W Josh W is offline
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Default Re: Too passive with TPTK? - 100/200

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I think I would have to bet if he checked the turn behind.

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No. If he checks the turn, he should checkraise the river.

Calling the flop, checking the turn, checking the river shows such extreme weakness that the villain will bet ANY hand on the river.

Josh
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Old 02-10-2006, 07:34 AM
Apathy Apathy is offline
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Default Re: Too passive with TPTK? - 100/200

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I think I would have to bet if he checked the turn behind.

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No. If he checks the turn, he should checkraise the river.

Calling the flop, checking the turn, checking the river shows such extreme weakness that the villain will bet ANY hand on the river.

Josh

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You think he would bet QQ? JJ?

I don't see the value in the c-raise.. would he call with those hands?
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Old 02-10-2006, 09:54 AM
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Default Re: Too passive with TPTK? - 100/200

i think you should 3 bet the flop, because you will often still get called down if he has something like TT-QQ. this is better than calling the flop raise and check-calling down (your plan) b/c you gain more value, and better than cr'ing the turn b/c he can get away from those hands.

if he were to cap the flop i would plan on just calling down. if the just called the flop 3-bet and popped you again on the turn, i would cry-call down b/c from your description he seems pretty aggro.
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Old 02-10-2006, 10:00 AM
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Default Re: Too passive with TPTK? - 100/200

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I think I would have to bet if he checked the turn behind.

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No. If he checks the turn, he should checkraise the river.

Calling the flop, checking the turn, checking the river shows such extreme weakness that the villain will bet ANY hand on the river.

Josh

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You think he would bet QQ? JJ?

I don't see the value in the c-raise.. would he call with those hands?

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I did it here and got called by KK.
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Old 02-10-2006, 10:41 AM
IronFly IronFly is offline
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Default Re: Too passive with TPTK? - 100/200

I think you are still ahead here, only 4 hand combos beat you. You should probably try to get more money in at some point, perhaps 3 bet the flop and lead the turn so villain doesn't check behind.
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Old 02-10-2006, 12:51 PM
shmahappens shmahappens is offline
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Default Re: Too passive with TPTK? - 100/200

You labeled this guy as TAG... and the difference between a 10/20 TAG and a 100/200 semi-lag...WOW
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Old 02-10-2006, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: Too passive with TPTK? - 100/200

i think you should 3-bet the flop or c/r the turn, i would call down any further aggression from there, most of these guys can have a very wide variety of holdings in this spot, and my guess is that if he has as much as an ace, hell never fold it
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