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Old 01-08-2007, 04:22 PM
smellmuth smellmuth is offline
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Default i give up with JJ

villain is 22.6/14.5/9 200 hands, i am likely percieved as aggro at this table.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($485.05)
Hero ($298.10)
MP ($194.65)
Button ($212.65)
SB ($207.05)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, MP calls $8, Button calls $8, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($33) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $18</font>, MP calls $18, Button folds, BB folds.

Turn: ($69) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $40</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $109
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Old 01-08-2007, 04:32 PM
smellmuth smellmuth is offline
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Default Re: i give up with JJ

no one wants to call me a pussy?
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Old 01-08-2007, 04:33 PM
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Default Re: i give up with JJ

I'd bet more on the flop, villain could easily be floating/thinking his TP is good. On the turn I'd usually c/c or b/f, since you have an aggro image people will give you less credit for a hand so now that you actually have one you can get more value from it.
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Old 01-08-2007, 04:35 PM
Paul Thomson Paul Thomson is offline
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Default Re: i give up with JJ

i will. pussy. u piced up a gut shot as well.

but whatever. it's not terrible. villain called with a player left to act behind him.

MP could have T9 or TJ or TA.
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Old 01-08-2007, 04:41 PM
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Default Re: i give up with JJ



Nevermind b/c I read PF all wrong

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Old 01-08-2007, 04:41 PM
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Default Re: i give up with JJ

Turn is b/f or c/c, not c/f !
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Old 01-08-2007, 04:43 PM
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Default Re: i give up with JJ

Bet more on the flop. I'd probably lead turn too, but if you don't you have to call the bet.
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Old 01-08-2007, 04:51 PM
ViciousPuma ViciousPuma is offline
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Default Re: i give up with JJ

vs villian with an agro factor or 9?! i call this. do you standardly bet &lt;(2/3pot) on this board? if not, bet more on flop. anyone feel like chickenraising?
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Old 01-08-2007, 05:14 PM
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Default Re: i give up with JJ

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anyone feel like chickenraising?

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No way. I can't imagine a worse hand paying off here. Betting a 4 way flop and c/r the turn is a VERY strong line.

Smell, I think this is fine. This is a set alot, and even the times he has a worse hand you aren't guaranteed to get to showdown. After you c/c the turn, villain will know exactly what you have. He will also know that it will be very hard for you to call a river bet.
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Old 01-08-2007, 05:21 PM
Glovey Glovey is offline
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Default Re: i give up with JJ

bad play, why did you check the turn and fold? fire off again, if you're gonna check, CR him, you probably threw away the best hand here. Make a pot sized bet on the flop AND the turn here in my opinion, if he raises, probably call and check call the river
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