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Old 01-07-2007, 11:44 AM
ronster71 ronster71 is offline
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Default How Badly Did I Play My Jacks??

Okay this hand has been bothering all last night...I was in the Absolute 100K guaranteed saturday afternoon. It was the first really big tournament I've ever played in...I was only in because I won my way in, and I'm afraid I might have played this hand weakly due to intimidation. However, I can also see my laydown being the smart thing to do considering the flop. I've decided I should probably have followed my raise with a continuation bet of some kind on the flop, but I would like to hear input from all...

STAGE #597450470 TOURNEY ID 1343140 HOLDEM MULTI NORMAL TOURNAMENT NO LIMIT $120 - 2007-01-06 17:45:03 (ET)
Table: 50 (Real Money) Seat #9 is the dealer
Seat 1 - RONSTER71 ($5135 in chips)
Seat 2 - NATTURNER ($2575 in chips)
Seat 3 - CHAINS1966 ($6740 in chips)
Seat 4 - XSIDE ($490 in chips)
Seat 5 - POKERCLOWN ($16300 in chips)
Seat 6 - XAJA1 ($8025 in chips)
Seat 7 - MPC67 ($11625 in chips)
Seat 8 - SKANKBOY1 ($7900 in chips)
Seat 9 - YOHAWN ($3700 in chips)
RONSTER71 - Posts small blind $60
NATTURNER - Posts big blind $120
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to RONSTER71 [Jh Js]
CHAINS1966 - Calls $120
XSIDE - Folds
POKERCLOWN - Calls $120
XAJA1 - Folds
MPC67 - Folds
SKANKBOY1 - Folds
YOHAWN - Folds
RONSTER71 - Raises $660 to $720
NATTURNER - Folds
CHAINS1966 - Calls $600
POKERCLOWN - Calls $600
*** FLOP *** [6h Kh As]
RONSTER71 - Checks
CHAINS1966 - Checks
POKERCLOWN - Bets $1080
RONSTER71 - Folds
CHAINS1966 - Folds
POKERCLOWN - returned ($1080) : not called
*** SHOW DOWN ***
POKERCLOWN - Shows [2h 2c] (One pair, twos)
POKERCLOWN Collects $2280 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($2280)
Board [6h Kh As]
Seat 1: RONSTER71 (small blind) Folded on the FLOP
Seat 2: NATTURNER (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: CHAINS1966 Folded on the FLOP
Seat 4: XSIDE Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: POKERCLOWN collected Total ($2280) HI$2280) with One pair, twos [2h 2c - P:2h,P:2c,B:As,B:Kh,B:6h]
Seat 6: XAJA1 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 7: MPC67 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 8: SKANKBOY1 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 9: YOHAWN (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
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Old 01-07-2007, 11:52 AM
Fiksdal Fiksdal is offline
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Default Re: How Badly Did I Play My Jacks??

1. Use a converter
2. Don't post results, and don't take them into consideration when you evaluate your play.

3. I think you played this hand fine.
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Old 01-07-2007, 12:41 PM
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Default Re: How Badly Did I Play My Jacks??

I think a fold is ok here, you have lots of chips and dont need to get into a big pot where you are probably behind. That said, a continuation bet MIGHT be useful, even if against 2 limper callers (against one limper caller id bet out for sure about half to 2/3 pot personally).
What is your image at this table? do you know anything about the limpers? have you come over top of a lot of limpers before? I'd factor these answers into my decision.

Brian
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Old 01-07-2007, 12:48 PM
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I think a fold is ok here, you have lots of chips and dont need to get into a big pot where you are probably behind. That said, a continuation bet MIGHT be useful, even if against 2 limper callers (against one limper caller id bet out for sure about half to 2/3 pot personally).
What is your image at this table? do you know anything about the limpers? have you come over top of a lot of limpers before? I'd factor these answers into my decision.

Brian

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Due to the board texture, the fact that it's 3 handed and we are OOP, I think a c-bet is out of the question here.
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Old 01-07-2007, 02:44 PM
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Default Re: How Badly Did I Play My Jacks??

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I think a fold is ok here, you have lots of chips and dont need to get into a big pot where you are probably behind. That said, a continuation bet MIGHT be useful, even if against 2 limper callers (against one limper caller id bet out for sure about half to 2/3 pot personally).
What is your image at this table? do you know anything about the limpers? have you come over top of a lot of limpers before? I'd factor these answers into my decision.

Brian

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Due to the board texture, the fact that it's 3 handed and we are OOP, I think a c-bet is out of the question here.

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Why is that? Hero is aggressor here and the presence of both A and K is very often scary to his opponents. I have taken down many pots like this with a continuation bet here. Hero actually has a hand and should try its value.
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Old 01-07-2007, 03:16 PM
Fiksdal Fiksdal is offline
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I just think a too great part of the calling ranges of the two villains like this flop. If it was HU I'd probably cbet, but with two opponents I think it's far too likely one of them has an ace.
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Old 01-07-2007, 03:20 PM
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Raise more out the SB - maybe as high as 1K total.

Cont bet one guy, check fold two as played (assuming no reads).
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Old 01-08-2007, 07:27 AM
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Default Re: How Badly Did I Play My Jacks??

I had just been moved to the table so I had no reads...my thinking was exactly like fiksdal said...I would have made a continuation bet against one opponent, but with A-K on the board and two callers on the preflop raise, it just seemed unlikely that at least one of two opponents who called the preflop raise hit that flop...thanks for the input guys
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