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Old 01-06-2007, 08:17 PM
themobfather themobfather is offline
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Default Overvaluing AK?

Villian is 18/10/1.6 over about 500 hands. No real reads at the time. I'm pretty new to limit, playing NL almost exclusively before. How did I play this?


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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
8 players
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Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, MP1 calls, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 calls all-in $1</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5.5SB, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: 4.5SB, Sidepot 1: 1SB)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3.75BB, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: 2.25BB, Sidepot 1: 1.5BB)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero caps</font>, BB calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (11.75BB, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: 2.25BB, Sidepot 1: 9.5BB)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 15.75BB
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Old 01-06-2007, 08:20 PM
Xhad Xhad is offline
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Default Re: Overvaluing AK?

I'd just call down the turn 3bet; you're frequently chopping and it sets you up for a lose2/win 1 type situation (which was what ended up happening)
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Old 01-06-2007, 08:27 PM
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Default Re: Overvaluing AK?

When he 3-bets the turn,most of the time he has AA,KK, or AK.I don't like your chances.
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Old 01-06-2007, 11:27 PM
Ricks Ricks is offline
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Default Re: Overvaluing AK?

A player who has an AF of 1.6 over 500 hands is usually not aggressive enough to 3-bet this turn with anything that you are ahead of. As has been said already, you should just call the turn 3-bet and hope for another AK.
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Old 01-07-2007, 12:49 AM
WalkAmongUs WalkAmongUs is offline
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Default Re: Overvaluing AK?

i'd have capped this PF.
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Old 01-07-2007, 02:21 AM
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Default Re: Overvaluing AK?

I would have bet out on the flop. I think you tried to get too fancy with two pair by waiting for the check raise on the turn. If he raises you call. Then if there's not a scare card on the turn I would bet out again.
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Old 01-07-2007, 02:29 AM
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i'd have capped this PF.

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Hero is OOP with what is basically a HU pot; capping AKo isn't imperative.
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Old 01-07-2007, 03:11 AM
Harv72b Harv72b is offline
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Default Re: Overvaluing AK?

It's not imperative, but with Hero apparently isolating on a short stack from the SB &amp; being 3bet by the BB, I think it's for value very, very often.
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Old 01-07-2007, 01:45 PM
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It's not imperative, but with Hero apparently isolating on a short stack from the SB &amp; being 3bet by the BB, I think it's for value very, very often.

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I'd also add that if you are going to pass up value, you should have a good reason to.
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Old 01-07-2007, 02:44 PM
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Reason is, your being OOP blunts your edge somewhat, plus you can make some of that value back by raising villain's expected cbet when you hit the flop.
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