Playing suited K-J on button, hand is driving me nuts

[buddy004]

This took place a Foxwoods 2/4 Limit and is driving my crazy (not too far to go) :
Hero is Button
Table impressions:
UTG is tight player
UTG+1 is really tight player.. only played 2 hands last hour AA and AK
MP3 is loose and calling almost everything pre-flop
SB is loose and will bet if catches any part of flop
BB is solid player

Preflop: Hero is on Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 3 folds, MP3 calls, CO fold, Hero call, SB call, BB checks

Flop: (6 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img](6 players)
SB bets, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP3 folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.5 BB) 10[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB bets, BB calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 raises and I pretty sure he has the straight ..

What do I do here ?

[Haupt_234]

I think you should raise KJs PF for value.

I like your flop line and would call the turn. You likely have close to 4 outs to the boat and also have the FD. So I would call planning on folding the river UI.

Haupt_234

[Allday Everyday]

I think you should have raised preflop.

I would have raised the flop.

I think you should call the turn.

[Allday Everyday]

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I like your flop line

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Why do you prefer calling over raising here?

[threeducks]

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I think you should have raised preflop.

I would have raised the flop.

I think you should call the turn.

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I would raise PF and Flop - but if I raised PF they might have checked to me on the flop.

The river is a tough call UI - turn easy call with so many outs. Most of the time he will show the Q but since you did not raise on the flop he might be betting 2 pair like KT.

I witnessed a hand where the Ten hit and a Q made a straight and the MP bet into the BTN who was leading the betting until the river. The BTN called and won with a better 2 pair (6-12).

[Grease]

I raise PF and jam the pot.

You must see the river, as you have too many outs to fold if you're behind (which you probably are).

I'm folding the river UI as well.

[dcredskins24]

I agree with everyone else.

Raise PF, raise flop, fold river UI.

[James.]

too passive.

[Gap23Razor]

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This took place a Foxwoods 2/4 Limit and is driving my crazy (not too far to go) :
Hero is Button
Table impressions:
UTG is tight player
UTG+1 is really tight player.. only played 2 hands last hour AA and AK
MP3 is loose and calling almost everything pre-flop
SB is loose and will bet if catches any part of flop
BB is solid player

Preflop: Hero is on Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 3 folds, MP3 calls, CO fold, Hero call, SB call, BB checks

Flop: (6 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img](6 players)
SB bets, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP3 folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.5 BB) 10[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB bets, BB calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 raises and I pretty sure he has the straight ..


What do I do here ?

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without reading any other posts (i believe this is what is called Grunching here) i say:

raise for value or call...you have 9 draws to the 2nd nut flush & another 2 draws to the nut straight, plus you have 2 draws to kings over, 2 draws to jacks over...15 cards that improve your hand and most are probably clean--lets say 10 clean outs--10 outs is a little more than 20%, and with implied odds you would have more than an overlay with 3 other players...so raising is a little better than calling, much better if you make the nuts and you get significant action on the river...

[Gap23Razor]

by the way, does the casino, Foxwoods, offer a bonus for a royal flush?