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Old 01-04-2007, 05:31 PM
23act 23act is offline
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Default KK vs TAG, std turn fold

Villian is unimaginative 20/10. No history with me.

Note - 135bb deep

Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $345.42
CO: $669.52
Button: $111.75
SB: $315.36
Hero: $277.89

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $8</font>, 2 folds, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $30</font>, UTG calls, SB folds.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($70, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $40</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($150, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG is all-in $273.42</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $273.42 returned to UTG.

Results:
Final pot: $150
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Old 01-04-2007, 05:41 PM
SonOfWestwood SonOfWestwood is offline
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Default Re: KK vs TAG, std turn fold

I guess you have to fold, as played. I can't imagine a 20/10 pushing like that on the turn, even with AQ.

Why aren't you leading the flop, though? I definitely would have led the flop and played from there.
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Old 01-04-2007, 06:39 PM
23act 23act is offline
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Default Re: KK vs TAG, std turn fold

ye. i checked the flop coz i thought AA, QQ were very likely due to his stats and JJ wouldn't call a bet...any thuoghts on that range?
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Old 01-04-2007, 06:44 PM
DanIsBluffin DanIsBluffin is offline
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Default Re: KK vs TAG, std turn fold

Given your read flop is fine. A problem I have found is auto cbetting flops in which I have 3bet PF without thinking what am I accomplishing. In this case if he is only capable of playing JJ+/AK here, checking is best as you're getting value out of worse hands. Turn is standard.
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Old 01-04-2007, 07:01 PM
jballer jballer is offline
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Default Re: KK vs TAG, std turn fold

I think turn is closer than you think. You under represented your hand on the flop so what is villain to think? Its very easy to put you on some weaker one pair hands like AQ or JJ that most likely wont call a shove.
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Old 01-04-2007, 07:04 PM
RiverFenix RiverFenix is offline
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Default Re: KK vs TAG, std turn fold

Villian has AA/TT/AKdd that order here every single time I look them up. I fold this when its 100bb on the turn but would have no problem calling if you started the hand w/ 100bb
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