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Old 01-04-2007, 02:59 PM
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Default $1 SnG, JJ w/ Overcard on flop and SB raises...

10 Handed. Blinds 15/30.
It's pretty early in the game so most of the stack sizes are still ~t1500.

She is CO w/ 1470, and J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Preflop:
2 Calls, 3 Folds, 1 Call, She raises to 240, 2 Calls, 4 Folds.

Flop (3 players): 5:hearts: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
SB bets 120, She calls, BTN calls.

Turn(3 players): 5:hearts: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
SB bets 200, She.... ??

Not really sure what to do on the either the flop or the river. Does it make sence for SB to have a queen or trips?
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Old 01-04-2007, 03:01 PM
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Default Re: $1 SnG, JJ w/ Overcard on flop and SB raises...

I like a raise (possibly a push) or fold on the flop.
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Old 01-04-2007, 03:09 PM
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Default Re: $1 SnG, JJ w/ Overcard on flop and SB raises...

I'm no expert, but I woudn't have raised to 8BB pf. As played, the SB flop bet was pretty weak (120 into a pot of ~800), so I may raise (~400) to gauge how good my Jacks really are. It is pretty low stake, so it is hard to guess whether villains may have called with a Q.
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Old 01-04-2007, 03:31 PM
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Default Re: $1 SnG, JJ w/ Overcard on flop and SB raises...

i probably fold the turn, although it pains me a bit to do so.
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Old 01-04-2007, 03:46 PM
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Default Re: $1 SnG, JJ w/ Overcard on flop and SB raises...

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i probably fold the turn, although it pains me a bit to do so.

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Thank you much, I was wondering if that was the correct move. I thought he would call a raise, but I might have enough FE if I pushed. (Did someone mention suicide?)

I did tack on a couple extra bbs pre-flop hoping for more FE as well since I thought it was a little weaker hand against so many opponents... would you not have done this?
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Old 01-04-2007, 03:47 PM
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Default Re: $1 SnG, JJ w/ Overcard on flop and SB raises...

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i probably fold the turn, although it pains me a bit to do so.

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Old 01-04-2007, 04:08 PM
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Default Re: $1 SnG, JJ w/ Overcard on flop and SB raises...

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I did tack on a couple extra bbs pre-flop hoping for more FE as well since I thought it was a little weaker hand against so many opponents... would you not have done this?

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I do follow the same line of thinking sometimes with weaker hands- but for myself I usually don't knock it up to the 8BB neighborhood. Maybe 4-6BB, if I am going to raise following some limpers, depending on the table, position, and hand of course. I don't know if it is "correct", but this early in an SNG, with JJ and limpers in front of me, my play would probably be to just limp. I try to avoid building big pots with marginal hands this early in an STT. As you played it though, I would fold the turn as well.
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Old 01-04-2007, 04:19 PM
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Default Re: $1 SnG, JJ w/ Overcard on flop and SB raises...

Do not limp JJ here as there is nothing marginal about them.
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Old 01-04-2007, 04:29 PM
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Do not limp JJ here as there is nothing marginal about them.

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Marginal wasn't the best choice of words, but it isn't something I want to build a large pot with preflop, this early in the tourney. I enjoy being corrected, because I need any help I can get. Raising is a fine play, and it would be my standard play were the tourney a little further along. I probably play too tight early on.
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