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Old 01-04-2007, 12:36 PM
b-komplex b-komplex is offline
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Default NL50: playing TPTK for stacks

Been at this table one orbit. Won a small pot off MP3 by coldcalling his UTG raise and psb the flop when checked to. He seems laggy and has won the last two pots w/o showdown. SB hasn't done anything of note.

How's my line?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($51.55)
UTG+1 ($47.70)
MP1 ($12.85)
MP2 ($8)
MP3 ($34.25)
CO ($59.20)
Button ($55.95)
SB ($17.50)
BB ($84.75)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $0.50, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($2.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $2</font>, Button calls $2, SB calls $2, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, MP3 calls $8, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $17</font>, Hero calls $7, MP3 calls $7.

Turn: ($55.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $17</font>
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Old 01-04-2007, 12:45 PM
Kakashi2314 Kakashi2314 is offline
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Default Re: NL50: playing TPTK for stacks

Raise preflop everything is different then [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 01-04-2007, 12:46 PM
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Default Re: NL50: playing TPTK for stacks

Raise/fold pf.
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Old 01-04-2007, 12:48 PM
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Default Re: NL50: playing TPTK for stacks

just lead the flop

and raise pf too

turn bet is horrific - what is it trying to accomplish?
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Old 01-04-2007, 12:49 PM
Sciolist Sciolist is offline
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Default Re: NL50: playing TPTK for stacks

Limping AQ UTG is fine in full ring. SBs blind looks seriously fishy. Check/call/reraise? He is probably an idiot who has flopped something massive.

In any case, why are you check/raising the flop? What's the point? Just lead out and see what happens. Getting all your money in like this makes me 95% sure you are dead.

God fullring sucks. I have no idea how I ever played 300k hands of it.
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Old 01-04-2007, 01:33 PM
b-komplex b-komplex is offline
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Default Re: NL50: playing TPTK for stacks

thanks for the feedback guys.

limp/raise AQo UTG is a coinflip for me. Only notable here in that I have not narrowed my range at all.

The flop C/R I was counting on LAG reopening the betting here. I thought I was good on the flop; postponing the flop bet was for info and the C/R I felt was a value bet and I'm possibly getting looked up by a variety of draws and weaker queens. But I am happy to end the hand here as well.

Turn bet was decided on instantly after LAG made the overcall. He doesn't have enough behind to move me off the pot anymore so I didn't want to give him a free chance to outdraw me.

Insanity?
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Old 01-04-2007, 01:53 PM
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Default Re: NL50: playing TPTK for stacks

this is terrible poker...
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Old 01-04-2007, 01:55 PM
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Default Re: NL50: playing TPTK for stacks

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this is terrible poker...

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so tell him what he did wrong, dont just sit here and criticize him.
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Old 01-04-2007, 01:57 PM
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Default Re: NL50: playing TPTK for stacks

OP:
I would either raise or fold PF, I have no idea what is best in full ring. I would also lead the flop typically. Think about what your c/r accomplishes and why you are doing it. Is it for value?

I would fold to SB's $17 most often. I think you see a set alot here given the way we got there.
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Old 01-04-2007, 03:47 PM
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Default Re: NL50: playing TPTK for stacks

SBs flop 3bet is his last $15; it costs me $7 into a ~$40 pot to call. I didn't feel great about it but I wasn't putting him on a set just yet. Also my turn bet would put MP3 all-in if that's not clear.

Been thinking a bit about the flop C/R. To date it's somewhat standard for me based on stack sizes and board. A pot lead here gives implied odds to all the draws and would put me in a difficult spot OOP on the turn a lot of times.

How bad is the play after the C/R? Should I 4 bet AI after SB raise; c/c or c/f turn?
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