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Old 01-03-2007, 08:58 PM
billxo1b billxo1b is offline
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Let me ask this question to 2p2ers what range are you opening if your villian?

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mine is probably TT+/AQs+/AK and will call any push. i am a nit
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Old 01-03-2007, 08:58 PM
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TT+, AK is my readless standard here.
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Old 01-03-2007, 09:12 PM
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Folding TT or even 99 here would be terrible.

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How can you say this with no read? There are plenty of opponents against whom TT or 99 would be a horrible horrible push.

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There are plenty of opponets where TT and 99 are insta what's your point.
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Old 01-04-2007, 05:10 AM
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There are plenty of opponets where TT and 99 are insta what's your point.

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That it's read based and hardly an insta anything.
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Old 01-04-2007, 05:39 AM
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You need a really good read to fold TT here. Let me ask this question to 2p2ers what range are you opening if your villian?
Probably something like 88+ AJ+ can someone who was the new pokerstove run that for me I'm pretty sure it's a shove against that range and villain is prob opening wider.

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Old 01-04-2007, 08:30 AM
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i push - it would be unusual (ie, if I knew my opponent was very tight) for me to fold here.


it never ceases to amaze me how many people will raise and fold to your push.
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Old 01-04-2007, 03:24 PM
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You need a really good read to fold TT here. Let me ask this question to 2p2ers what range are you opening if your villian?
Probably something like 88+ AJ+ can someone who was the new pokerstove run that for me I'm pretty sure it's a shove against that range and villain is prob opening wider.

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Against that range you are a 45/55 dog.

If I'm Villain in this hand, you have no FE, so you should definitely fold.. however without a read, I have to assume you have FE over a good majority of players here. I think that swings this to a push unless you have a good read that Villain is a tight (and intelligent) player.
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