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Old 01-04-2007, 06:37 AM
DandyJam DandyJam is offline
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Default NL100 - QQ 3-bet OOP

Let me know what you think of the flop checkraise. Ok or does it suck? I was fairly sure villain would bet the flop if checked to. I was looking to get a bet from him if he had a smaller PP or if he had AK (which I didn't want to give a free card to).

Villain in hand is something like 20/16 after 300 hands or so. His stack is ~$130, Hero covers.

Full Tilt 6-max, Blinds $0.5/$1

Hero is in the BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Folded to Villain on the button who raises to $3.50. Very shortstacked SB calls $3.50. Hero raises to $14. Button calls. SB calls all-in.

Flop (~$40): T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero checks. Button bets $25. Hero raises all-in for ~$115.
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Old 01-04-2007, 09:07 AM
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Default Re: NL100 - QQ 3-bet OOP

come on, somebody's gotta have an opinion on this one?
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Old 01-04-2007, 09:19 AM
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Default Re: NL100 - QQ 3-bet OOP

Not terrible/even if you re raise the flop and he plays back at you/your pot committed. I think you are ahead here unless he spiked a set/he would re raise you preflop with KK or AA
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Old 01-04-2007, 09:27 AM
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Default Re: NL100 - QQ 3-bet OOP

I'm not so sure he'd reraise w KK+. He has position and doesn't have to worry about the SB since he'll be all in anyway if he calls.
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Old 01-04-2007, 09:59 AM
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Default Re: NL100 - QQ 3-bet OOP

im not a fan. hands that call you beat you and hands that you beat fold. why arent you just leading this flop. i doubt a 20/16 is stacking here with TPTK or JJ. if you flopped a set i wouldnt mind the play but this line looks a little spewy to me
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Old 01-04-2007, 10:06 AM
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Default Re: NL100 - QQ 3-bet OOP

I guess you're hoping he has JJ here? AT?

just bet the flop then slow down
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Old 01-04-2007, 10:09 AM
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Default Re: NL100 - QQ 3-bet OOP

how much of the pot is protected?
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Old 01-04-2007, 10:14 AM
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Default Re: NL100 - QQ 3-bet OOP

I think you should definitely bet the flop. Also I raise to 18 preflop. I don't like to give smaller pairs correct implied odds to call, and if he's coming along for 14, he'll call 18.
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Old 01-04-2007, 10:16 AM
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Default Re: NL100 - QQ 3-bet OOP

You're right, it probably is spewy. I didn't really think he would be stacking off with JJ, and he definitely doesn't have AT. My main thought, as mentioned in OP, was to get a bet from a whiffed AK or PP, i.e hands that he could have called with preflop but would have folded to a flop bet.

What if I had AA? Then I could probably get a call from QQ/KK, two of his very likely holdings.

What if I lead the flop and he raises? Easy fold?

My action on the turn if I lead the flop and he just calls?
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Old 01-04-2007, 10:17 AM
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Default Re: NL100 - QQ 3-bet OOP

Shortie had ~14 so it's ~40 in the main pot.
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