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#11
01-02-2007, 06:54 PM
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Re: I hate the way I played this (100NL)
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Villain is playing about half the pots so far (30 hands). I know I played it horribly, but I don't know what line I should have taken. Felt weak to fold the flop, but can I really reraise here? Then WTF is that turn bet? By the time the river bet came I was just confused and called because I'd butchered the hand so badly that I figured why stop now. Poker Stars No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $0.50/$1 6 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: $94.65 UTG+1: $115.85 CO: $56 Hero: $99.30 SB: $309.25 BB: $49.40 Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $3.5</font>, SB folds, BB calls. Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($7.5, 2 players) BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $5.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $11</font>, Hero calls. Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($29.5, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $1</font>, Hero calls. River: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($31.5, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $12</font>, Hero calls. Results: Final pot: $55.5 [/ QUOTE ] checking flops solves problems. 
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#12
01-02-2007, 07:02 PM
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Re: I hate the way I played this (100NL)
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I'm re-popping that flop an awful lot there. Lots of equity against a drawing or weaker hand quite often. The rest of the hand, as played, is fine. [/ QUOTE ] This would be ok if you ever had any FE but this guy never folds TP. *sigh* I think it's close but I would just call maybe raise the turn
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#13
01-02-2007, 07:07 PM
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Re: I hate the way I played this (100NL)
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[ QUOTE ] Villain is playing about half the pots so far (30 hands). I know I played it horribly, but I don't know what line I should have taken. Felt weak to fold the flop, but can I really reraise here? Then WTF is that turn bet? By the time the river bet came I was just confused and called because I'd butchered the hand so badly that I figured why stop now. Poker Stars No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $0.50/$1 6 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: $94.65 UTG+1: $115.85 CO: $56 Hero: $99.30 SB: $309.25 BB: $49.40 Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $3.5</font>, SB folds, BB calls. Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($7.5, 2 players) BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $5.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $11</font>, Hero calls. Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($29.5, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $1</font>, Hero calls. River: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($31.5, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $12</font>, Hero calls. Results: Final pot: $55.5 [/ QUOTE ] checking flops solves problems. [/ QUOTE ] What's your play when he leads the turn?
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#14
01-02-2007, 07:37 PM
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Re: I hate the way I played this (100NL)
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Cbet is weak. I bet 7 here. As played Id raise that turn bet to 20 and then give up. [/ QUOTE ] I agree. My typical cbet on the flop is a hair less than pot size. And raising the turn as suggested here (I might even raise a little less) makes it much more likely that we win the pot now, get to showdown more often, and can confidently fold to any more action. As OP played its very hard to know where he's at, so I don't really hate the river call.
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#15
01-02-2007, 07:40 PM
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Re: I hate the way I played this (100NL)
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[ QUOTE ] Villain is playing about half the pots so far (30 hands). I know I played it horribly, but I don't know what line I should have taken. Felt weak to fold the flop, but can I really reraise here? Then WTF is that turn bet? By the time the river bet came I was just confused and called because I'd butchered the hand so badly that I figured why stop now. Poker Stars No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $0.50/$1 6 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: $94.65 UTG+1: $115.85 CO: $56 Hero: $99.30 SB: $309.25 BB: $49.40 Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $3.5</font>, SB folds, BB calls. Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($7.5, 2 players) BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $5.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $11</font>, Hero calls. Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($29.5, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $1</font>, Hero calls. River: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($31.5, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $12</font>, Hero calls. Results: Final pot: $55.5 [/ QUOTE ] checking flops solves problems. [/ QUOTE ] It also creates a very big problem: giving a free card to any flush draw, gutshot, or overcard.
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#16
01-02-2007, 08:39 PM
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Re: I hate the way I played this (100NL)
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[ QUOTE ] Villain is playing about half the pots so far (30 hands). I know I played it horribly, but I don't know what line I should have taken. Felt weak to fold the flop, but can I really reraise here? Then WTF is that turn bet? By the time the river bet came I was just confused and called because I'd butchered the hand so badly that I figured why stop now. Poker Stars No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $0.50/$1 6 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: $94.65 UTG+1: $115.85 CO: $56 Hero: $99.30 SB: $309.25 BB: $49.40 Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $3.5</font>, SB folds, BB calls. Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($7.5, 2 players) BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $5.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $11</font>, Hero calls. Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($29.5, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $1</font>, Hero calls. River: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($31.5, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $12</font>, Hero calls. Results: Final pot: $55.5 [/ QUOTE ] checking flops solves problems. [/ QUOTE ] Maybe I've been reading too much SSNL, but I think this is a pretty good flop to check too.
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#17
01-02-2007, 08:42 PM
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Re: I hate the way I played this (100NL)
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Villain is playing about half the pots so far (30 hands). I know I played it horribly, but I don't know what line I should have taken. Felt weak to fold the flop, but can I really reraise here? Then WTF is that turn bet? By the time the river bet came I was just confused and called because I'd butchered the hand so badly that I figured why stop now. Poker Stars No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $0.50/$1 6 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: $94.65 UTG+1: $115.85 CO: $56 Hero: $99.30 SB: $309.25 BB: $49.40 Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $3.5</font>, SB folds, BB calls. Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($7.5, 2 players) BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $5.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $11</font>, Hero calls. Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($29.5, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $1</font>, Hero calls. River: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($31.5, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $12</font>, Hero calls. Results: Final pot: $55.5 [/ QUOTE ] checking flops solves problems. [/ QUOTE ] What's your play when he leads the turn? [/ QUOTE ] Depends. Call is good most of the time.
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