98s in reraised pot, Prima 2/4 - Page 4

Hattifnatt · #31 02-09-2006, 07:02 AM

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i would call the first raise, but probably dump to the second one. as played, push it in...hopefully your flush outs are good and one of them doesn't have JJ.

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I thought the first raise is pretty standard as well, because I only have to put in 3.4% of effective stack. But because I have problems with these situations I guess I should just muck them unless the call is very clear under the circumstances.

Rex Bluett · #32 02-09-2006, 09:04 AM

apart from all the other reasons people have given about not calling raises with drawing hands out of position etc.
whats one flop you really like to see with 89 ?
TJQ
what's the most common raising hand ?
AK, this is mentioned in SS

AJFenix · #33 02-09-2006, 10:04 AM

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apart from all the other reasons people have given about not calling raises with drawing hands out of position etc.
whats one flop you really like to see with 89 ?
TJQ
what's the most common raising hand ?
AK, this is mentioned in SS

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You realize thats not the only way for 98 to flop a straight right? 567 67T and 7TJ? There are plenty of very good boards for a suited connector like 98s besides flopped straights, btw.

Hattifnatt · #34 02-09-2006, 03:11 PM

I did what most of you suggested, Pushed, BB called after a few seconds and CO folded.

CO showed A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], which wasnt very surpricing.

Turn and river came K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and MHING.

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1517740
pokenum -h 8h 9h - ac ad -- 5h jd 6h
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing Jd 6h 5h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
9h 8h 473 47.78 517 52.22 0 0.00 0.478
Ac Ad 517 52.22 473 47.78 0 0.00 0.522

Close to a coinflip...

If you want to continue to comment the hand, its very welcome.

The lesson ive learned this far is to be cautious with SC OOP preflop and I should really try to get away from them more often in situation like these in the future.

TheWorstPlayer · #35 02-09-2006, 03:28 PM

fold preflop, push flop.

Hattifnatt · #36 02-09-2006, 03:39 PM

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fold preflop, push flop.

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Fold to the first raise, or 2nd raise?

Open Push or C/R Push (ie as played)?

TheWorstPlayer · #37 02-09-2006, 03:51 PM

first raise. i'm definitely calling the second. and c/r obviously. open push is retarded.

Hattifnatt · #38 02-09-2006, 03:56 PM

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first raise. i'm definitely calling the second.

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Why muck to the first one, and why is a call on the 2nd raise so clear, is it because of a more well defined hand of BB than of CO in the first place?

CubeMaster · #39 02-10-2006, 06:00 AM

Call after the first raise and fold after the BB reraises.

Push it in after the flop.

TheWorstPlayer · #40 02-10-2006, 06:13 PM

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first raise. i'm definitely calling the second.

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Why muck to the first one, and why is a call on the 2nd raise so clear, is it because of a more well defined hand of BB than of CO in the first place?

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The first raise looks like it will be a medium sized pot HU, out of position. That's a muck. The second raise looks like it will be a huge pot, multi-way, out of position but with only one street to play. that's a call.