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Old 12-30-2006, 02:51 PM
JimRivett JimRivett is offline
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Default The End of an Era

The Commerce has removed the Terrace!

Prior to the expansion of the hotel and new top section, the Terrace was the top section. It was a dias roughly in the centre of the card room against the far wall. I believe there was room for eight, perhaps nine, tables. Since the expansion it had become the 9/18 hold'em section.

A friend of mine, he is also a prolific 2+2 poster, mentioned it to me last week. We went over to take a look and he was correct in claiming that when you look out over original poker room it looks like a sea of poker players!
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Old 12-30-2006, 04:03 PM
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Yep. They did it because removing the terrace allowed them to add seven more tables.

I liked the terrace. There's too much foot traffic through there now, and the lack of a railing allows the chip runners to wander off.
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Old 12-30-2006, 04:11 PM
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Old 12-30-2006, 05:14 PM
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Yea I liked the terrace - it made playing 9/18 seem special... lol


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Old 12-30-2006, 07:08 PM
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The Commerce has removed the Terrace!

Prior to the expansion of the hotel and new top section, the Terrace was the top section. It was a dias roughly in the centre of the card room against the far wall. I believe there was room for eight, perhaps nine, tables. Since the expansion it had become the 9/18 hold'em section.

A friend of mine, he is also a prolific 2+2 poster, mentioned it to me last week. We went over to take a look and he was correct in claiming that when you look out over original poker room it looks like a sea of poker players!

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Unfortunately the sea has so little room between tables that the claustrophobic among us are having an ongoing nervous breakdown while playing. The closest thing I could find to an aisle seat for a 400 NL game yesterday was back against the west wall. The extra space allowed room for a series of food trays allowing me to eat about $60 worth of comped food amounting to over ten thousand calories in a single nine hour session.

Hopefully the crowding will diminish with the introduction of new collection policies on I think January 7th, 2007. My guess is this will be post-worthy.

~ Rick
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Old 12-30-2006, 08:21 PM
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Hopefully the crowding will diminish with the introduction of new collection policies on I think January 7th, 2007. My guess is this will be post-worthy.

~ Rick

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How much worse can they make it than it is now?
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Old 12-30-2006, 08:48 PM
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Hopefully the crowding will diminish with the introduction of new collection policies on I think January 7th, 2007. My guess is this will be post-worthy.

~ Rick

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How much worse can they make it than it is now?

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From what I read on the back wall in the $400 buyin NL area (along with the sign in the hallway between top and the main (old) section) quite a bit worse.

At the same time I wonder if there "stepped" drops may open a door to more competitive drops elsewhere.

~ Rick

I didn't change any content, just fixed a misplaced quote. -RR
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Old 12-30-2006, 10:04 PM
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I will mix the Terrace.
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Old 12-31-2006, 01:33 AM
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I will mix the Terrace.

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Yeah, me too. I remeber when one part of the Commerce floor was solid $3-6 LHE, one section was solid $6-12(24 tables each, all going strong each weekend), one section was "pan", and one section was $2-4 stud up to $6-12 stud(appx 30 total stud tables on weekends...lol plus about 10 more $1-2...I don't think we'll ever see that again).

And in the center were $10-20 up to $20-40 LHE tables shadowed over by the Terrace which was $30-60 and up. Really, I think this structure was part of the sucess of Commerce....the bigger games were close to the smaller games and allowed for very easy access to a $6-12 donkey who ran well to go take a shot at bigger games.
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Old 12-31-2006, 11:57 AM
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Hopefully the crowding will diminish with the introduction of new collection policies on I think January 7th, 2007. My guess is this will be post-worthy.

~ Rick

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How much worse can they make it than it is now?

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From what I read on the back wall in the $400 buyin NL area (along with the sign in the hallway between top and the main (old) section) quite a bit worse.

At the same time I wonder if there "stepped" drops may open a door to more competitive drops elsewhere.


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My understanding is that the increase in rake(by $1?) is due to the raise in Californias minimum wage(puke....god I hate socialists). Anyway, I know for certain I will never play below $9-18 at Commerce again and probably not below $20-40. The other area casinos can have my action at $15-30 as long as the rake remains the same.

Increases like this really kill small games. I think this increase may make games at $4-8 and lower entirely -ev games. I already liked the $4-8 at Hustler...I put in maybe 40 hours last year donking at $4-8 or $6-12....Commerce will never see that action from me. Also, the rake effectively ensures I simply will not play as much. At $15-30, and $20-40 I will not play if I am not in the correct frame of mind, if I am tired or, anything else is going on that might disrupt my ability to play my best. So if the dog barks in the morning and wakes me up....no poker. If I do work around the house and am tired...no poker. If I am upset about something and likely to tilt...no poker.
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