2/4 Limit: Pair of aces, just wondering how the play is

[NB_Gambler]

Poker Stars
Limit Omaha Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
10 players
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Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
3 folds, MP1 calls, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, Button calls, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">CO caps</font>, Button calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (16.5SB, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (10.25BB, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, MP1 folds, CO calls, Button folds.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (12.25BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 14.25BB

[Habib Marwan]

postflop is fine, don't 3 bet AA69 from the bb. It is a poor hand to play in a multiway pot out of position.

[Dire]

In O8 always remember to ask yourself why you're raising. In this situation your raise will not remove players - people who call 1 bet, will usually call 3 or even 4 in O8. And your hand's pretty bad. Against a limper, raiser and cold caller your equity edge is going to be very small, if you even have one - so you're raise isn't for value either. And that's further compounded by being out of position. Basically, in this spot your raise doesn't do much besides announce you have aces.

This flop is horrible for you. High hands just flopped two pair or big wraps. Since you have two of the aces, but not the ace of hearts - the nut flush draw is probably out there. The CO could easily be freerolling you here if he's the type that usually only raises with AA. On top of all of this, you have no real redraw. If you had just called preflop you could check and evaluate this flop - but most likely just folding.

As played, you're in a really tough spot. You're in a huge pot where you're either barely ahead or pretty far behind with no way to really tell. Even A2xx hands are getting proper odds to try to backdoor you, so it's impossible to protect your hand. I really have no advice for the flop as played. Try to avoid building huge pots with mediocre hands so you don't put yourself in this spot.

As played, the turn is a miracle card for you. That's literally the best possible card for you. Somebody holding an 8 is pretty unlikely, no lows are possible and now you've just outdrawn KQ. A bet is definitely obligatory now.

The miracle dies on the river though. Getting 13:1, you've gotta call. Just hope he's on AA without an extra heart.

[PocketHogans]

As stated above, the preflop 3bet is a mistake with 3 other people in the pot. Postflop isn't bad, although it's difficult to imagine your hand is ahead on the flop. However, it is entirely possible given the action. Lots of players in 08 peel the flop with very little, and the fact that you're bet only got one caller on the turn probably means that either a) he did have KQ in his hand and you've outdrawn him, or b) he's on a heart draw. Either way, unless you really feel he has the flush, I think this is a spot where it's correct to call the river bet.

[NB_Gambler]

Thanks for the very explaining replies. I just started playing omaha/8 yesterday, being a HE player.

I was 3-betting pre-flop in hope the first limper would fold but as said that's pointless.