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Old 12-29-2006, 10:45 PM
CybrPunk CybrPunk is offline
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Default 200NL - I speculated and hit, now what?

A little background. UTG in this hand is fairly decent and straightforward. He lost a huge pot to me just a few hands back and is probably steaming and on tilt but I'm not so sure that you can weigh that into his hand selection. He's been pretty solid so far.

I made the preflop call expecting that the player on the button would fold as he's been fairly tight but the 75vpip guy in the blinds was almost sure to come along. That didn't exactly go as planned but oh well... here I am sandwiched between the two tight guys hoping one of them goes broke here.

I'm mostly interested in advice on the flop play but input on all streets is appreciated.


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$1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
5 Players
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<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
Hero (MP): $216
BTN: $334.85
SB: $63
BB: $88.35
UTG: $200

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($3, 5 players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $8</font>, Hero calls $8, BTN calls $8, SB folds, BB folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($27, 3 players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $28</font>, Hero calls $28, BTN folds

<font color="black">Turn:</font> 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] ($83, 2 players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $84</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all in to $180</font>, UTG calls all in for $80
Uncalled bet of $16 returned to Hero

<font color="black">River:</font> 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] ($411, 2 players)
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Old 12-29-2006, 10:51 PM
mikechops mikechops is offline
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Default Re: 200NL - I speculated and hit, now what?

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Old 12-29-2006, 10:58 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - I speculated and hit, now what?

Ugh, this is wierd.

He would have to be really, really horrible to pot this turn with an overpair. Like ridiculously bad. I think he'll have a set/straight or something here extremely often. I would honestly fold this turn against anybody remotely decent. Easier said than done, but I can't see him playing too many worse hands this way.
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Old 12-29-2006, 10:59 PM
Kilillan Kilillan is offline
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Default Re: 200NL - I speculated and hit, now what?

wow, I'm never folding this turn given Op's read.

I would however consider folding the flop
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Old 12-29-2006, 11:04 PM
CybrPunk CybrPunk is offline
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Default Re: 200NL - I speculated and hit, now what?

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wow, I'm never folding this turn given Op's read.

I would however consider folding the flop

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This is mainly what I'm trying to figure out. Was a flop fold right? A raise is definitely horrible here so it's obviously either fold or call but which is really 'optimal'.

Once I get to see the turn I'm just not folding. Perhaps that's my stubbornness talking.

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