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Old 12-29-2006, 07:08 PM
BurnleyMik BurnleyMik is offline
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I play from the UK and I still get all those bad beats, even before the US legislation was introduced. This is apparently called Variance!! Was this just your personal experience or where you hearing it elsewhere? If elsewhere were the players you spoke to trustworthy?

Its a good conspiracy theory though!
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Old 12-29-2006, 08:17 PM
JOHNY CA$H JOHNY CA$H is offline
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Learn to use periods, maybe then people won't think you're crazy.
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Old 12-29-2006, 08:26 PM
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You should post this in all of the other forums as well.

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LOL
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Old 12-29-2006, 08:28 PM
JOHNY CA$H JOHNY CA$H is offline
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its not rigged b/c many players have +1 mil hand history data bases on poker tracker that point to everything being fine. That and most players here still win.
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Old 12-29-2006, 08:57 PM
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I am intrigued by your theories and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
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Old 12-29-2006, 10:28 PM
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I am still winning. About a year ago, I started folding QQ preflop and cold-calling more with Q3o and now I am crushing the games. It's all about adapting to the new conditions.
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Old 12-29-2006, 10:31 PM
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I am still winning. About a year ago, I started folding QQ preflop and cold-calling more with Q3o and now I am crushing the games. It's all about adapting to the new conditions.

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qft
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Old 12-29-2006, 10:38 PM
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and my stats do agree w/ my idea. I played for about 7 or 8 months and things were goin good. Then about a year ago it all went downhill. I know this is a very small sample size and I'm not offering my stats as proof but here are some of the basics

- AA, KK, JJ, 10 10 are all winning below what they should
but QQ is slightly better than average

- I get more pocket pairs 9-A then 2-7 but flop less sets w/ the higher pocket pairs and overall for all pocket pairs flop less sets than normal

- I get slightly more flush draws than i should when i play 2 suited cards, but make slightly less than i should

- Of the 63 MTT i have played since it started all goin bad about a year ago when I have gotten all my chips in on a coinflip, either end of it, I have only won roughly 43%. This includes when i had the overcards v underpair and vice versa. Obviously i dont know how many of the pair cards were out, but still this is low

- When i got all my chips in w/ overpair v underpair
i won 60%

- Overall my cash % in MTT is down

- Im winning less frequently and less $$ when i do win

Im know this is a small sample size and isnt very reliable and may be due 2 variance. A few of my friends have felt the same thing tho. While the ends may be statistically justifiable that doesnt mean the means to that end are

I'm sure some of you are goin 2 say this is variance and I'm a bad player and so on. That may be true, but my skill is not the point here. As a general rule I'm usually kinda tight, so its not that I play like a maniac so every1 calls me down and just seems to get lucky on the end.

I didnt mean 2 come across as just some idiot who is losing and wants 2 say its fixed so he has an excuse...bcuz im not 1. What i wanted was 2 know if any1 experienced anything similar? Does any1 know what prompted PP to install BJ? cuz thats when it all seemed 2 start bad 4 me. Were players requesting it? If they werent than PP obviously thought that would increase their revenue, and it must be doin just that cuz they still have it. How big is online poker outside of US? Do they also use the main sites...PP, Stars, UB, etc?

I intended this 2 be civil and was just looking for some opinions and thoughts. i'm not saying that I'm right or that online poker is fixed. I just posted my idea and wanted feedback
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Old 12-30-2006, 12:07 AM
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i know that the house has at least a .42% advantage in BJ....but do u really think thats all that PP had? and lets say u get AK over 99.....that is roughly 13-12 in favor of the 99.....lets say 50% for conveince sake......now lets say u win 1 hand...a small pot....then the next time this scenario comes up you flop an A and the guy goes crazy raising and rivers a 9 and beats u.....the initial stats look ok.....u were a ~48% favorite and u won 1 out of 2.....but maybe it is rigged that u win the small and lose the big.....poker bots do exist, right.....so y cant PP have house bots that adjust to the cards that the players get

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Online BJ is more difficult to beat because they can shuffle as many decks as they want after each card because it is electronic. If you're playing a six-deck game in a casino, you can count cards and use basic strategy to overcome the house advantage because they can't shuffle after each hand or card dealt.

In regards to your poker example, I would be thrilled to have someone go crazy raising after I flopped a pair of aces, even if they did hit their 2-outer on the river. 95% of the time I would take down a big pot.
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