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Old 12-28-2006, 08:30 PM
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Default Straight ahead to Value Town or take the Check/Call Exit?

Early in the session so no reads. I was 3 tabling so I may have acted too quickly on instinct.

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PokerStars Limit Hold'em Ring - $3/$6 Stakes (10 handed)

Starting Stacks
Seat 1: UTG ($403)
Seat 2: UTG+1 ($162)
Seat 3: EP (Hero) ($148)
Seat 4: MP1 ($105)
Seat 5: MP2 ($162)
Seat 6: LP ($92)
Seat 7: CO ($109)
Seat 8: Button ($77)
Seat 9: Small blind ($123)
Seat 10: Big blind ($76)

Preflop: Hero is EP with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero raises, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, LP calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, Small blind folds, Big blind calls

Flop: (8.33 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Big blind bets, Hero raises, LP calls, Button folds, Big blind calls

Turn: (7.17 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Big blind checks, Hero bets, LP calls, Big blind calls

River: (10.17 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Big blind checks, Hero...
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Old 12-28-2006, 08:50 PM
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Default Re: Straight ahead to Value Town or take the Check/Call Exit?

I might even consider check/folding, but I'd probably check/call. As of that river, most of the hands that call here have you beat.
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Old 12-28-2006, 09:16 PM
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Default Re: Straight ahead to Value Town or take the Check/Call Exit?

I c/c.

Reasons:
1. The pot is pretty big on the river
2. The flop was very draw heavy and is likely that villains were calling with draws, in which case they do not pay you off here.
3. No one will fold a Q if they have one.
4. But if LP has a Q and sometimes even with a K, he doesn't bet this because he's not sure about his kicker. IOW, you get a free showdown.
5. Obviously, be more inclined to call an LP bet if BB folds.
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Old 12-28-2006, 09:21 PM
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Default Re: Straight ahead to Value Town or take the Check/Call Exit?

not sure if this is a value bet because mostly like if you bet he will fold with what seems like a busted draw, but if he calls you are beat so i would just check behind.
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Old 12-28-2006, 09:37 PM
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Default Re: Straight ahead to Value Town or take the Check/Call Exit?

I think this is a bet too.

The BB bet the flop. What does that tell us about his hand?

LP calls two bets. What does that tell us? What hands call on that flop the that contain a Q or K?

The pot's big, 9's 7's, etc will likely call. There's a good chance LP missed everything and the BB will call with a worse hand. Sure, he could have a flush draw with a Q or K, but it's more likely he missed.
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Old 12-28-2006, 09:48 PM
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Default Re: Straight ahead to Value Town or take the Check/Call Exit?

bet and pray ala miles.
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Old 12-29-2006, 12:52 AM
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Default Re: Straight ahead to Value Town or take the Check/Call Exit?-RESULT

After the second over card came off on the river, I thought this a good place for a c/f. I checked and got to showdown for nothing. The other two had lower PPs than mine.
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Old 12-29-2006, 02:20 AM
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Default Re: Straight ahead to Value Town or take the Check/Call Exit?

bet/fold if it's 2 back to you.

wouldn't overcall a raise either.
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Old 12-29-2006, 03:13 AM
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Default Re: Straight ahead to Value Town or take the Check/Call Exit?

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bet/fold if it's 2 back to you.

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You mean you're calling 1 raise? What do you beat?
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Old 12-29-2006, 10:29 AM
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Default Re: Straight ahead to Value Town or take the Check/Call Exit?

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bet/fold if it's 2 back to you.

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You mean you're calling 1 raise? What do you beat?

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a busted draw bluff. the pot will be largish enough, I may only have to win one in 12 or 14.
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