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Old 12-28-2006, 03:46 PM
sylar sylar is offline
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Default valuebeting TT on the river

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $3/$6
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO (poster) checks, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, CO calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4.5SB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, CO folds.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3.25BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5.25BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 7.25BB

villain is 19/0/0.7 he can call down with anything. he also cannot let go of AK-AQ. valuebet river or let him bluff?
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Old 12-28-2006, 03:53 PM
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Default Re: valuebeting TT on the river

He is very passive so bet/fold is better.
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Old 12-28-2006, 04:31 PM
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Default Re: valuebeting TT on the river

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He plays limit poker so betting is better.

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Old 12-28-2006, 04:37 PM
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Default Re: valuebeting TT on the river

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He plays limit poker so betting is better.

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So you bet here against anyone no matter what they play like?
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Old 12-28-2006, 04:55 PM
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Default Re: valuebeting TT on the river

see, i posted this hand because i screwed up. i was not so much afraid of him hitting his Q, i thought that i'd rather c/c than b/f in this spot because he is passive. i am guessing this is the reason my AF is pretty much always under 2.0.
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Old 12-28-2006, 04:56 PM
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Default Re: valuebeting TT on the river

The only person I'd ever consider not betting against here is a someone with a very high AF who will fold to most of your bets but will almost always take a shot at a checked river.

In this situation, not betting is criminal
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Old 12-28-2006, 05:24 PM
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Default Re: valuebeting TT on the river

Correct consensus for betting the river, unless you have a strong specific read otherwise. In fact, you had the following: "...he can call down with anything. he also cannot let go of AK-AQ."

So, even if you get a bet from a bluff, it's not near the sure thing that betting is. Plus, with villain's AF, he seems more likely to check behind than bluff anyway.
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Old 12-28-2006, 06:51 PM
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Default Re: valuebeting TT on the river

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He is very passive so bet/fold is better.

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