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Old 12-26-2006, 01:12 AM
ZingyDNA ZingyDNA is offline
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Default 2 preflop pushes PS 100NL 6max

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SB ($93)
BB ($148.65)
UTG ($139.20)
Hero ($212.10)
CO ($44.45)
Button ($109.15)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, CO calls $4, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $16</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $212.1</font>

Villain is 25/18 in ~100 hands. They seemed to "over-respect" my raises. They prolly wouldn't after this one [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Complete spew?


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SB ($91.90)
BB ($96.75)
UTG ($103.30)
Hero ($124.85)
CO ($107.45)
Button ($86.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $12</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $114</font>

first few orbits on the table, no reads on villain. I won the 25 bucks in a couple hands w/ no showdown. What's the flop plan if you call? Do u fold this to unknown?
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Old 12-26-2006, 01:15 AM
delta k delta k is offline
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Default Re: 2 preflop pushes PS 100NL 6max

i almost never do this. just fold hand 1 and in hand two i'm prob calling and seeing a flop but I don't think a reraise to $50 is bad here. The push seems silly, IMO- a reraise does the same and hopefully allows some worse hands to call us, unlike the push where i think only better hands call.
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Old 12-26-2006, 01:19 AM
ZingyDNA ZingyDNA is offline
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Default Re: 2 preflop pushes PS 100NL 6max

All right Hand 1 isn't worth much discussion. For hand 2 , isn't any significant 4bet commits us?
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Old 12-26-2006, 02:02 AM
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Default Re: 2 preflop pushes PS 100NL 6max

You a tournament player by any chance?

without a specific read that button is reraising light (like most any two) both these pushes are suicide.

Pockets, AQ+, maybe AJ+ are in an aggressive opponents range.

Basically you are either flipping or crushed.
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Old 12-26-2006, 02:27 AM
ZingyDNA ZingyDNA is offline
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Default Re: 2 preflop pushes PS 100NL 6max

Hand 1 is suicide unless he's squeezing(I know I know FPS I did that for metagame purposes lol). but I think I can make a case for Hand 2. Villain is unknown. Against a 3bet range of JJ+/AQ+ I have about 43% equity. I'm behind 36% against QQ+/AK, dominated 19% against QQ+. Obviouly I'm not calling w/ JJ, but I think you need a read that he's a rock to prove my push is a big mistake.
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Old 12-26-2006, 03:08 PM
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Default Re: 2 preflop pushes PS 100NL 6max

yea u are 43% equity at best but he will his AQ probably and u fall to 36% equity when you will play for real money
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Old 12-26-2006, 03:18 PM
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yea u are 43% equity at best but he will his AQ probably and u fall to 36% equity when you will play for real money

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WTF???
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