3rd hr of $10R | Before you say "Shove the Turn"..

[somerook]

Situation : 3rd hr of $10R. Just moved to this table, so no reads yet

My rationale: I couldve shoved the turn, but thought that since I have the backdoor NFD, if a high spade rivers(Js+), then it may make a pair/2pair/set for the Villain encouraging him to push. But he wants my chips in right now. Now what? InstaCall here? Fold coz hez representing a str8.
Comments on earlier streets welcome too..

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t800 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB (t14855)
UTG (t22761)
UTG+1 (t12820)
MP1 (t13382)
Hero (t13975)
MP3 (t28918)
CO (t10340)
Button :#A500AF(Villain)/ (t43737)
SB (t30505)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2200</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button :#A500AF(Villain)/ calls t2200, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: (t4800) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t2000</font>, Villain calls t2000.

Turn: (t8800) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Villain bets t39487 (All-In)</font>, Hero ??

[w33ktight]

I don't make such a weak bet on the flop, I bet at least 3000 here.

On the turn I would much rather be pushing with this hand than calling a push, especially on the turn.

The idea is to create fold equity with a lot of outs, not trap people with middle pair. villain folds a lot of hands on the turn because your flop bet looked so weak, he might have peeled with like KQ, 89, 99, etc. you are now in a tough spot because you made a weak flop bet and didn't follow up on the turn when you should have with your hand. villain is right to assume you might have a weak hand.

summary: i'm pushing turn and making a flop bet that has a good chance to take the pot. (and also, set's up more of a potsize push on the turn if i read the stack sizes right)

[somerook]

Thanks for the comment.. as played, do you call the push?

[DDBeast]

Bet more on the flop, then shove the turn. Which such a weak flop bet, he could be calling a whole lot of hands.

As played, you have to fold unless you have a read he is aggressive.

Also, the pf raise is loose.