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Old 12-25-2006, 02:10 PM
halpgr halpgr is offline
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Default .25/.50 3 to a 4 flush river, first to act

CO is a calling station. BTN seems pretty solid.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (9.40 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button calls.

Turn: (9.20 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, Button calls.

River: (12.20 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero ...</font>

I did some calculations. For the flush, with 4 random unseen cards. The chance none of them is a club is

36/45 * 35/44 * 34/43 * 33/42 = 39.5%. Thus there's a 60.5% chance someone has a flush.

I feel my set is probably good over a non-flush unless BTN has QQ. If CO has 65 I think he would be raising a lot more. So my equity is around 39%, less rake and the possibility of BTN having QQ. BTN could also have 99,TT,JJ,KK or AA here.

So it seems I have a thin value bet. So I'm thinking bet/fold is a good line for the river. A bluff raise 3 way would be pretty crazy to try as it will get called by a flush 100% of the time and a non-flush a lot of the time.

Check fold seems weak as I'm getting good odds to call and this is an obvious bluff opportunity.

Check call seems bad as hands I'm beating will not bet, but they may call as they called the turn. Hands that beat me will surely bet though.

What's a good line for the river here first to act.
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Old 12-25-2006, 03:12 PM
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Default Re: .25/.50 3 to a 4 flush river, first to act

Lead the flop
Your TU on the river.

Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
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Old 12-25-2006, 03:13 PM
Christian_Peters Christian_Peters is offline
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Default Re: .25/.50 3 to a 4 flush river, first to act

b/f
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Old 12-25-2006, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: .25/.50 3 to a 4 flush river, first to act

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b/f

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HU yes, but I don't think so multiway. Why? I personally don't think Hero can overcall.

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Old 12-25-2006, 03:19 PM
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Default Re: .25/.50 3 to a 4 flush river, first to act

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Your TU on the river.


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What means this? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 12-25-2006, 03:23 PM
Christian_Peters Christian_Peters is offline
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Default Re: .25/.50 3 to a 4 flush river, first to act

Actually, I find this hand difficult.

How bad would this be:
c/c to a single bet
c/f to a raise
????
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Old 12-25-2006, 06:33 PM
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Default Re: .25/.50 3 to a 4 flush river, first to act

I would usually bet out the flop. However, I think C/R is better here because (1) button raise PF (2) I am to the left of the button (3) flop is two-suited and (4) I want to try to knock out the other two fellas.

Check-calling the river for one bet. Check-folding if CO raises and button reraises.
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