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Old 12-23-2006, 09:45 PM
Scotch78 Scotch78 is offline
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Default (PS $3/$6): I Keep Losing my Balls in the Water

Stats (VP$IP/PFR/WSD/AF-F/AF-T/AF-R):
BB - 42/9/39/1.8/8/-, 57 hands
CO - 20/14/40/2.3/5/1.3, 81 hands
BTN - 63/0/31/0.7/1.4/2.3, 24 hands

Table Reads:
BB - Only one thing to add that the stats don't already say, he is capable of 3-betting pretty aggressively. Oh, and he has had to reload once or twice.

CO - Nothing to add that the stats don't already say.

BTN - The vast majority of bets I've seen from him were a draw or weak pair. He is capable of raising the flop with a weak draw like overcards, but I have yet to see him get truly out of line. Also, when pushing a draw on the flop, he always seems to check the turn.

He has limped/checked pre-flop with AQ, AJ and KQ in situations that were pretty easy raises, and the only raise I saw was a button steal-raise with 66.

Let's see, what else . . . he's slowplayed a couple of strong hands and I've seen him play a lot more than 24 hands, the rest must've just been 5-handed.

PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, Button calls, Hero completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG folds, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, BB calls $6 (All-In), CO calls, Button calls.

Turn: (13 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, Button calls.

River: (16 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players, 1 all-in)</font>
Hero . . .

Scott
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Old 12-23-2006, 11:15 PM
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Default Re: (PS $3/$6): I Keep Losing my Balls in the Water

I'd figure button for something like AK or AJ. I'd be more worried about the CO, that he may have the flush. But unless he has the QJ of spades, he's got a baby flush, which would be a strange hand to overlimp with preflop. So I may just figure him for some kind of pair+draw hand like AT. So since no one has a set or flush draw (hopefully), I'd bet the river.
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Old 12-24-2006, 04:51 AM
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Default Re: (PS $3/$6): I Keep Losing my Balls in the Water

Crappy spot

I agree with Halford that BTN looks like AK, AJ or even AQ and AT, wouldnt a set pop the turn?
There is also plenty of worse hands in BB's range, but yeah a flush is certainly in that range to.

So in short I would hate checking and having it checked through by 2 worse hand that would have called a vb.
But I also hate betting when it gets raised and I cant lay my hand down in this big pot.

I do think I bet and if raised I call while calling my wife names if its 1 back to me. If it goes bet - raise - raise I fold.
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Old 12-24-2006, 08:37 AM
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Default Re: (PS $3/$6): I Keep Losing my Balls in the Water

I'm betting the river and calling a raise without overcallers. If CO calls and button raises I'm folding or if CO raises and button calls i'm folding.
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Old 12-24-2006, 10:18 AM
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Default Re: (PS $3/$6): I Keep Losing my Balls in the Water

I dont see other option - bet the river. worst case would be both of them raise, and even if they do there are 2 pair hands that you beat and the pot is too big, probably still bad to fold.
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Old 12-24-2006, 10:28 AM
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Default Re: (PS $3/$6): I Keep Losing my Balls in the Water

I would value bet here. I think you are losing more by not extracting another bet from AK and AJ than you lose when you get raised by a flush. I don't see a full house as very likely at all given the turn.
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Old 12-24-2006, 12:27 PM
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Default Re: (PS $3/$6): I Keep Losing my Balls in the Water

*grunch*

I'd bet here. A flush is a possiblity, but so are lots of weaker hands. I wouldn't assume that the button was chasing a flush.
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Old 12-24-2006, 05:38 PM
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Default Re: (PS $3/$6): I Keep Losing my Balls in the Water

i think the river is a pretty easy bet/call.

why didn't you c/r the flop?
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Old 12-24-2006, 05:41 PM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default Re: (PS $3/$6): I Keep Losing my Balls in the Water

How does CO ever not have a flush if he raises the river?

Must be a -EV call but I'd do it too. Actually I'd really just hope that it gets raised and 3-bet so I could fold.
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Old 12-24-2006, 06:28 PM
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Default Re: (PS $3/$6): I Keep Losing my Balls in the Water

I think the flop is the perfect spot to c/r.

I am pretty much only worried about CO here. If he raises your river bet, you are never good. But having it checked through on the river would suck too. I'd bet and if CO raised, I'd punch the wall and call.
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