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Old 12-22-2006, 04:09 PM
Mr. Orange Mr. Orange is offline
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Default Re: AK rivers two pair, gets raised

My math is wrong like I figured. Ignore it.

When we 3 bet and get called we only win 14.67BB not 16.67BB

which means we win 567.7 BB and lose 183.9BB (profit 383.8)
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if we just call we profit 429BB.

Yeah, yeah, I suck no more math posts for me. I learned something though so I guess that's good.
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Old 12-22-2006, 04:16 PM
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Default Re: AK rivers two pair, gets raised

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no no no, call his river c/r all day long. The only time we should be 3balling this river is if we can fold to a cap

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agreed.
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Old 12-23-2006, 02:02 AM
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Default Re: AK rivers two pair, gets raised

woohoo, thanks. good insight. I've settled on calling instead of 3-betting, since I CANNOT fold to a cap. I am not that good.
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Old 12-23-2006, 04:34 PM
Dhani Dhani is offline
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Default Re: AK rivers two pair, gets raised

I can't see a set here a good deal of the time unless the villain is worried about a possible straight draw. I think you caught up on the river. I think I will hear some noise about this, but what about a check on the turn, and raise the river if he bets?
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Old 12-24-2006, 10:15 AM
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Default Re: AK rivers two pair, gets raised

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no no no, call his river c/r all day long. The only time we should be 3balling this river is if we can fold to a cap

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fold the river to a cap? did it really cross your mind? lol
i think villain play is really more likely with a rivered 2 pair than with a weirdly played QJ.
i often see people c/r draws in blindbattle situations, but more rarely when 3-bet.
a set is unlikely too. he'd probably have c/r the turn.
so mr orange i think you should remove some TTs, 88s, QJ and QJs from your pokerstove calculation, and probably see that 3-betting the river is profitable.
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