Calling a Raise with Suited Connectors & Pairs

[fishpielemonsole]

do you think these plays are profitable?

[krazyace5]

NL or limit?

[fishpielemonsole]

nl

[Masquerade]

Of course, but only if you are deep-stacked relative to the raise.

[tempo]

This depends a lot on the size of the raise, how much money you and raiser have behind, your chances of improving and how many cards are left to come.
If you are talking PF then it also depends a lot on position and your read on your opponent.

You definitely need to learn about pot odds and implied odds to answer your question.

[Javanewt]

In general, without more information, yes.

[Elandriel]

Lots of info to find on this forum regarding that.

In general i use the 5/10 rule, call up to 10% of your stack if the other players are deep enough.

[Shoot59]

more profitable with pairs....but if stacks are deep then yes for both

[mvdgaag]

If i'm correct you make a flush or straight (combined) about 12% of the time by the river with suited connectors and the same for improving a pair to trips.
So you'll just have to determine what you can win if you win the pot and see if it's worth the odds. If you call a $10 bet you need to be able to win an average pot of $200-$300 or so, because you also might need to pay a couple of bets when you're drawing on the flop and turn.
Don't forget that you need to pay to see the river more often with suited connectors than with pocket pairs. Therefore you only need a win of a $100 pot when you are trying to improve your pp on the flop, which is a bit more than a 10-1 shot.

EDIT: You only want the lower suited connectors, because the ones like T9 and JT make the low ends of the straights that are probable to give the raiser the high end.
The raiser might also be drawing to the same flushes as you do, but will mostly have the higher flush. This makes it a bit less profitable. So when you make your winning with suited connectors hand it should pay off really well for this play to be profitable.

[damedley]

I don't think calling a raise with suited connectors is a profitable play if you are likely to get heads-up. The only exception I can think of would be in position against a player who is likely to check-fold if he misses the flop. You are unlikely to hit a straight or flush on the flop (around 2%). Getting a straight or flush draw is fairly common (over 25% to get at least inside straight draw) but everyone knows to bet enough to keep those draws marginally profitable. However, with another player in the pot it is much harder to give you insufficient odds to make your draw.

Pairs on the other hand can call with a big remaining stack or re-raise to all in with or against a small stack. Very playable versus a single raise. Against a raise and re-raise you can still play them if stacks are big enough (over 10x the bet) and no one will be able to raise again after you call. But if someone is left to act behind you then you must toss most pairs away.