live 08 player ages

Frond · #1 12-22-2006, 04:01 PM

I still don't get why every time I go to one of my local card rooms that there are hardly ever any people between the ages of 21-45 playing O8. Not a knock at all on retirees, but nobody seems very interested in playing O8 except the exact same group of 20 or so people playing it every day. I see the very same people every time I go which is uslly once a week on a different day each time. They all play tons of hands which is great for a tag like me but it would be nice to see some new faces and get some others intersted in the game. Guess it's bdecause of the very limited media coverage of O8?

redmarion · #2 12-22-2006, 05:08 PM

The TV revolution shows the excitement of playing big bet poker. Big bet poker for the young (hope of quick riches) is mezmerising. Talk to some young people getting out of high school or college and ask them where they expect to start salary wise with their first employment. They will have high expectations for starting out. Their parents and society have fostered them to expect to start out at the high end of the income chain and go up. None of them expect to start out in the training trenches and work their way up.

Why should they go into a game that offers a long term grind for a profit (once they have the experience).

They want to go for the high risk and high reward from NLHE. Go to any casino and the young guns go to (a) the NLHE tourny sign ups or (b) NLHE cash games. They bet big, make risky bluff plays and (a) go broke or (b) get a big stack. When they get a big stack, they move to a higher limit and try for the parlay up. Then they repeat the cycle. They move the money up the food chain. Occassionally one will get schooled along the way and begin to actually play poker but they rarely move into the diversity of poker. They are one trick poneys. When they go broke, they mooch off friends or use some other hustle to get back in the game.

They are "players." They don't spend time to "LEARN" poker.

BradleyT · #3 12-22-2006, 06:55 PM

Heh, yeah. I'm 32 and when I occasionally play live at my local casino they look at me like I sat down at the wrong table. It always amazes me though how 70 year olds still play every damn hand. You'd think those are the guys who have been playing 40 years and would know better. For some it's probably the only excitement left in their lives [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

orangepeel · #4 12-22-2006, 07:36 PM

I want to play some live O8 but it seems like all the O8 games all have higher limits, and I just can't afford the risk. The only casino near me is the Argosy riverboat near Cincinnatti (Lawrenceburg actually) but when I went there there were a few 1-3 NLHE tables but only one O8 table and it was 10/20. I would love to play but I can't just take a thousand dollars out of my account and go play when I don't even have much experience with live play. I want to see something like a 1-2 or 2-4 O8 table and I wish they had pot limit.

Frond · #5 12-22-2006, 08:02 PM

I guess that I am lucky in that there are a few casinos here in the So Cal area that spread 3-6 and above O8. There is even one that has 2-4 on their board but it rarely gets going. It is funny that the older o8 crowd does like to play lots of hands, but it is entirely a social thing for them and they are there to play lots and lots of hands. It is the same at every place I've played. I usually just sit and wait for some hands to play.

fishyak · #6 12-22-2006, 09:03 PM

I'm a new O8 player at the ripe young age of 52. If you want to bluff O8 ISN'T your game. If you want to be driven nuts counting outs, calculating pot odds, and facing a river full of possible nut draws, then you might find O8 entertaining.

It seems to me that the new player crowd WANTS to bluff A LOT. As a result NL has an easy time attracting the "more balls than brains" crowd. Since bluffing is out of the question at the low limit O8 tables, the new bluffer sits down at the 1/2 NL w/ the $40 buy-in instead.

At the same time, good O8 tables look VERY soft to me. The dinosaurs don't seem to mind a few new predators feeding at their tables as long as they can continue their social club of regularly passing chips back and forth between friends.

But as with low LHE, it is NO fold'em and bluffing is out of the question. You have to know and play quality cards AND catch some connection with some boards to win. But when the cards come, the money seems to come even easier than at a low LHE table.

Frond · #7 12-22-2006, 11:29 PM

I agree with you Yak, when you do hit a hand you get paid off rather well. I think that one could simply be a nut peddler at lower limit O8 and do just fine. I try and look for 1-3 scoops per session. Lately for me it has been high only hands when a bunch of low chasers are in the mix. It is nice because in any given 3-6 pot there is a lot of dead money in there. In O8 for me, patience def. is a virtue.

Anyone else have any thoughts on playing live O8 and how the usually do at the game?

orangepeel · #8 12-22-2006, 11:59 PM

oh how I want an O8 game. maybe I should move

steamboatin · #9 12-23-2006, 08:31 AM

Argosy used to spread a $5-10 O/8 game with a full kill. I haven't been there for a long time so I don't know if it goes very often. I think there was a post in the B&M forum saying it often has a full list but they don't have enough tables to spread the game.

Frond · #10 12-23-2006, 12:27 PM

The 3-6 game that I play in a bit is a ful lkill and the regulars love nothing better than telling everyone and the dealer at the table that it is a kill pot by the way they can count the stacks of chips oh so fast. They pride themselves in that skill! Anyways, as for bluffing, throw it out in this limit for sure.

Q: Wondere how some of you play the small blind in a 3-6 game where it is an additional $2 to complete to see the flop with no raises? I actually play pretty tight and throw away more hands than most would.