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Old 02-08-2006, 01:27 PM
Darth Poker Darth Poker is offline
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Default 99 taking it too far?

just call flop on uber-coordinated board? raise the river?

Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.10/$0.2
7 players
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Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (10.5SB, 5 players)
<font color="#cc3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#cc3333">Hero raises</font>, CO folds, Button calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (9.25BB, 4 players)
<font color="#cc3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls, Button calls.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (13.25BB, 4 players)
<font color="#cc3333">BB bets</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls, Button folds.

Results:
Final pot: 15.25BB
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Old 02-08-2006, 01:32 PM
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Default Re: 99 taking it too far?

I like flop raise as it protects our hand some. I might think about raising the turn, but others may disagree with this.
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Old 02-08-2006, 01:36 PM
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Default Re: 99 taking it too far?

Without reading the post: yes.

After reading the post: still yes, but not so much. I want a read before I raise 99 so early in such a loose game. I think the flop raise is fine with the OESD, BDFD and overpair, and don't mind the turn call, but when BB bets a coordinated flop into a pfr, donkbets the turn overcard, and is still coming at you on the river I think your crying call is unnecessary against an unknown.

Edit: oops, trying to do too much at once. Your straight hit on the river. Folding would be wrong, obviously. But, you've only got one card of it, so I say that you're splitting enough that the river smooth-call is right. If you raise you'll be 3-bet by T9, but you'll fold overpairs, two-pairs, etc.

Edit 2: you'll also be 3-bet by a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] frush.
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Old 02-08-2006, 02:14 PM
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Default Re: 99 taking it too far?

I like the way you played it. I'd play all streets the same way.
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Old 02-08-2006, 02:29 PM
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Default Re: 99 taking it too far?

I'd don't like the raise pre-flop but everything else looks good.
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Old 02-08-2006, 02:30 PM
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Default Re: 99 taking it too far?

raise the river.
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Old 02-08-2006, 02:40 PM
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Default Re: 99 taking it too far?

I think I prefer a showdown against an unknown S&amp;G'er, and river donker. It would be awkward to get 3-bet and have to call to see if he has a flush / chopping the straight, or aggro with turned 2 pair, etc. In other words, I think the whole hand is just fine.

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Old 02-08-2006, 02:40 PM
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Default Re: 99 taking it too far?

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raise the river.

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raise/call? that seems like spew, but raise/fold seems too tight.
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Old 02-08-2006, 02:41 PM
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Default Re: 99 taking it too far?

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If you raise you'll be 3-bet by T9, but you'll fold overpairs, two-pairs, etc.



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I don't think those hands are folding

I think a case can be made for raising the river
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Old 02-08-2006, 03:19 PM
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Default Re: 99 taking it too far?

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raise the river.

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raise/call? that seems like spew, but raise/fold seems too tight.

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how about, raise/win.

it is highly unlikely he is betting a 4-flush into 3 people on the turn after getting raised on the flop.

it's also highly unlikely he has exactly T9. and even if he did, he's not 3-betting that because your hand looks like a flush.
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