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Old 12-21-2006, 01:09 AM
Adam Stewart Adam Stewart is offline
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Default How\'s this hand?

Villain is 54/31/1.94 after 570 hands


Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 8, 8.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 4, 5, J <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) A <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 6.75 BB
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Old 12-21-2006, 01:21 AM
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Default Re: How\'s this hand?

The only question is can he fold KK, QQ, TT or 99 to a turn bet?
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Old 12-21-2006, 01:33 AM
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Default Re: How\'s this hand?

when ur heads up against retardedly aggressive and erratic players u should pretty much never take lines that involve making the pot big and folding before showdown
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Old 12-21-2006, 03:43 AM
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Default Re: How\'s this hand?

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The only question is can he fold KK, QQ, TT or 99 to a turn bet?

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Something tells me this is unlikely.
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Old 12-21-2006, 05:33 AM
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Default Re: How\'s this hand?

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The only question is can he fold KK, QQ, TT or 99 to a turn bet?

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Something tells me this is unlikely.

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Your instinct is good because it would never happen save villain misclicking.
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Old 12-21-2006, 03:10 PM
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Default Re: How\'s this hand?

This guy is a total spaz. unless you have reads that indicate otherwise, his 3bet range pre includes a butt-ton of ass. I would cap preflop.

Given your preflop call, flop c/r is standard. Whoever said the only consideration was whether he folds PPs to a turn donk is way off imo. He is more likely to raise with these hands for a free SD than fold them. Whether or not his range is actually crushing us on this turn is another consideration. He could have a whole lot of hands that 3bet the flop that we're still ahead of, and he's likely to keep betting them all. I would call down.
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Old 12-21-2006, 04:50 PM
DING-DONG YO DING-DONG YO is offline
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Default Re: How\'s this hand?

Anyone just call down from the flop? That's what I would be inclined to do.
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Old 12-22-2006, 12:32 AM
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Default Re: How\'s this hand?

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when ur heads up against retardedly aggressive and erratic players u should pretty much never take lines that involve making the pot big and folding before showdown

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Easy to miss little gems in threads. This is simple, straightforward, excellent guidance.
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Old 12-22-2006, 12:55 AM
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Default Re: How\'s this hand?

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The only question is can he fold KK, QQ,..

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This made me giggle.

Reviewing the OP:


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Villain is 54/31/1.94 after 570 hands

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Old 12-22-2006, 02:59 AM
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Default Re: How\'s this hand?

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when ur heads up against retardedly aggressive and erratic players u should pretty much never take lines that involve making the pot big and folding before showdown

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Easy to miss little gems in threads. This is simple, straightforward, excellent guidance.

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I concur.

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