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  #51  
Old 12-20-2006, 03:27 PM
joelmick joelmick is offline
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Default Re: suspicious pokerstars shortstackers data

Yeah, you are about the 100th person to say that.

I think that avatar alone makes me an extra 1BB/100. But because I would rather win your money by outplaying you, I'll let you in on a little secret--Stars has an option that lets you turn the avatars off.
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Old 12-20-2006, 04:09 PM
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Default Re: suspicious pokerstars shortstackers data

Good posts, time for a joelmick well thread?
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Old 12-20-2006, 04:33 PM
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Default Re: suspicious pokerstars shortstackers data

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Stars has an option that lets you turn the avatars off.

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Thank the Lord.
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Old 12-20-2006, 05:33 PM
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But because I would rather win your money by outplaying you

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Yeah when you limp reraise your 18.5bb allin with AA, you demonstrate such massive pwnage. Luckily for all of us you can only "outplay" us on one street max.
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Old 12-20-2006, 06:54 PM
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Default Re: suspicious pokerstars shortstackers data

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But because I would rather win your money by outplaying you

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Yeah when you limp reraise your 18.5bb allin with AA, you demonstrate such massive pwnage. Luckily for all of us you can only "outplay" us on one street max.

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Seriously, I don't get it. If he can outplay you on one street and make money that way, what is it wrong that you think he's doing? You're really coming off like a huge douche in all this in my book.
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Old 12-20-2006, 07:33 PM
TedKgb TedKgb is offline
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PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $6 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Button :#A500AF(joelmick)/ ($111)</font>
SB ($235.20)
BB ($490.70)
UTG ($171.15)
UTG+1 ($1256.55)
<font color="#C00000">MP1 :#A500AF(cocoblackcat)/ ($19.80)</font>
MP2 ($642.40)
Hero ($662.40)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 :#A500AF(cocoblackcat)/ raises to $19.8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $19.80, <font color="#CC3333">Button :#A500AF(joelmick)/ raises to $88.2</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero folds.

Flop: ($136.80) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: ($136.80) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($136.80) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $136.80


I was just playing and this hand occurred. Just to prove they do play hands with eachother and in this case, ran me out of the pot.
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Old 12-20-2006, 10:35 PM
TedKgb TedKgb is offline
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I am playing 5/10 PLO and the same hand Joelmick, Cocoblackcat, and Superboydan all sat down. They all sat down at the same time (within probably 10 seconds of one another) and all sat out. Then, they all start with 200 dollars and come back from sitting out at the same time. Suspicious????
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Old 12-20-2006, 11:21 PM
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Default Re: suspicious pokerstars shortstackers data

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PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $6 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Button :#A500AF(joelmick)/ ($111)</font>
SB ($235.20)
BB ($490.70)
UTG ($171.15)
UTG+1 ($1256.55)
<font color="#C00000">MP1 :#A500AF(cocoblackcat)/ ($19.80)</font>
MP2 ($642.40)
Hero ($662.40)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 :#A500AF(cocoblackcat)/ raises to $19.8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $19.80, <font color="#CC3333">Button :#A500AF(joelmick)/ raises to $88.2</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero folds.

Flop: ($136.80) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: ($136.80) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($136.80) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $136.80

ran me out of the pot.

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Worthless without results.
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Old 12-21-2006, 02:32 AM
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Default Re: suspicious pokerstars shortstackers data

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But because I would rather win your money by outplaying you

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Yeah when you limp reraise your 18.5bb allin with AA, you demonstrate such massive pwnage. Luckily for all of us you can only "outplay" us on one street max.

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Seriously, I don't get it. If he can outplay you on one street and make money that way, what is it wrong that you think he's doing? You're really coming off like a huge douche in all this in my book.

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wazz,

He isn't actually outplaying many people on even 1 street. When someone raises to like 3 or 4bb in a multiway pot and there are some calls, then he does his thing with AA, the last guy to act is going get enough dead money odds to call with a lot of hands that don't have an A or K in them, or a pair (i.e. suited runs). This isn't to say he isn't getting bad calls from people who should fold some hands to him once he's raised and there isn't much dead money.

And the key is that it is obvious that playing well and outplaying your opponents on multiple streets with bigger stacks is the most skillful. So at the bottom of that skill ladder is his style. He only "outplays" the total fish.
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Old 12-21-2006, 03:36 AM
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Default Re: suspicious pokerstars shortstackers data

He's clearly outplaying you otherwise you wouldn't be getting so goddamned worked up about it.
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