NL50 - KK big pot pf - mono flop - call push?

[Ra_]

only 20 hands on villan, hes limped alot

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $38.15
UTG+1: $50.75
CO: $34.15
Button: $62.45
SB: $51.65
Hero: $50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $3</font>, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $12</font>, 4 folds, SB calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($28.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB is all-in $39.65</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero calls all-in $38</font>.
Uncalled bets: $1.65 returned to SB.

[ihtfp]

I think this might be a fold. He probably has JJ-AA, and you are only ahead of JJ now. Plus, even with JJ or an unlikely worse hand he's likely got outs to the flush.

[Vegetarian]

Easy call.

[HoldenFoldem]

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only 20 hands on villan, hes limped alot

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $38.15
UTG+1: $50.75
CO: $34.15
Button: $62.45
SB: $51.65
Hero: $50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $3</font>, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $12</font>, 4 folds, SB calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($28.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB is all-in $39.65</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero calls all-in $38</font>.
Uncalled bets: $1.65 returned to SB.

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"Easy" fold. If i had Kclubs i might call this. I put him on QQ here or AA with the club ace. I think you are way behind . Ask yourself: what does he think i have?? given your reraise, he knows its a big pair. given his call of your reraise, he also has a big pair. I can't see him pushing the flop with JJ unless he is a total donk...and there are many. I fold.

[Vegetarian]

Villain didn't 3-bet the inital opener so he dosn't have AA or KK or QQ unless he is a total donk which makes this call very easy because a total donks range here is way wider than JJ+.

[eviljeff]

just fold it. you're getting crappy odds and can find a better spot. he sometimes does this with a naked big club, but if this is +EV it's marginal and it's super high variance.

[HoldenFoldem]

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Villain didn't 3-bet the inital opener so he dosn't have AA or KK or QQ unless he is a total donk which makes this call very easy because a total donks range here is way wider than JJ+.

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He called a $9 reraise for about 20% of his stack. He's not calling with 67clubs here.imo

[Ra_]

I though QQ was a definate possibilty, AA not so much. I also thought A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K or A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q was a big part of his range.