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Old 12-20-2006, 08:20 AM
lijkie lijkie is offline
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Default How much did I need to reraise the villain?

Here is the situation: Its Pokerstars 180 ppl 20$ NL tournament. The blinds are 100$-200$ and im sitting next to a very aggressive player with 10.000$, known to play any two cards.

My stack size is 4.000$ and im dealt KK.

Villain raises double the big blind to 400$. I am next to act and raise to 800$. All fold to villain, who calls. I really wanted him to call so I raised him only the minimum.

Flop comes JT6 rainbow. Villain bets 600$. I raise to 1200. Villain reraises and I call allin. Villain shows 66 and wins the pot.

Did I raise to little? What did I need to raise preflop than? Or was I going to loose anyways?

Some advise please!
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Old 12-20-2006, 08:32 AM
jerG123 jerG123 is offline
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Default Re: How much did I need to reraise the villain?

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I really wanted him to call so I raised him only the minimum.
Did I raise to little? What did I need to raise preflop than? Or was I going to loose anyways?
Some advise please!

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So did you want him to call or not? Yes your raise was way small, at least raise it to 1200-1600.
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Old 12-20-2006, 08:33 AM
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Default Re: How much did I need to reraise the villain?

The 20/180 machine may be asleep.

Repop to 1,200-1,400. Aggro as he is, he'll flatcall or reraise you AI. Easy call then. If he bets flop, shove over that. You're not paying off sets that often anyway, so the fact you did this time shouldn't alter your play.

Don't be results-oriented, don't worry about fold equity. They never fold! Get value preflop, get your overpairs in with a very good flop like that, double up through the aggressive bigstack.
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Old 12-20-2006, 08:34 AM
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Default Re: How much did I need to reraise the villain?

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Some advise please!

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STOP MIN-RAISING, FFS!!!
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Old 12-20-2006, 12:58 PM
lijkie lijkie is offline
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Default Re: How much did I need to reraise the villain?

Why not min raising? I want him to call thats for sure. I think he can only win if he will outdraw me here. So let him come into the pot with me. What's wrong with min-raising here?
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Old 12-20-2006, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: How much did I need to reraise the villain?

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Why not min raising? I want him to call thats for sure.

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If you want him to call then min-raising is fine. Of course he'll call with anything, but that's what you want, right?

Why were you asking how much to raise if you already knew?

Were you quizzing us? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 12-20-2006, 01:45 PM
Fiksdal Fiksdal is offline
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Default Re: How much did I need to reraise the villain?

I don't believe OP is stating miniraising was correct, I think he wants to have explained why it isn't.

Btw, the raise that OP did was not a miniraise, a miniraise would have been to t600.

Anyway, OP:
After you re-raised villain, he was looking at odds of 4.75 to 1 for calling. Add some implied odds for that, and he can pretty easily call for set value, because he is pretty certain he gets your stack when he hits. You want to induce your opponent to make mistakes, rather than allowing them to play correctly.

And, given your description of the villain, I'm pretty sure he doesn't like to get pushed off pots when he has innitiated by open raising. Just raise to t1000-t1200. I'd say there is a good chance he calls, or somes over the top.
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Old 12-20-2006, 01:45 PM
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Default Re: How much did I need to reraise the villain?

I was wondering if i should have raised more. What do you think, should I have raised to 1200 or 1600?
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Old 12-20-2006, 01:50 PM
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Default Re: How much did I need to reraise the villain?

t1600 seems like a bit too much, you don't really want to BLAST him out of the pot. t1200 would be my personal prefernce.
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Old 12-20-2006, 01:54 PM
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Default Re: How much did I need to reraise the villain?

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And, given your description of the villain, I'm pretty sure he doesn't like to get pushed off pots when he has innitiated by open raising. Just raise to t1000-t1200. I'd say there is a good chance he calls, or somes over the top.

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My thought exactly. Next time ill probably raise to 1200.
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