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Old 12-20-2006, 12:16 AM
joseki joseki is offline
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Default 100NL AQs; turn and river problems OOP v. LAG

I posted this in microNL, but didn't get many reads or any responses. Maybe there isn't anything interesting in this hand, but I thought it was hard to play and that the situation was somewhat generalizable (if that's a word).

CO is 60/20/2.5 over 200 datamined hands. Effective stacks are $110.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players

Pre-flop: (6 players) hero is UTG with A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
hero raises to $3.5, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($14.5, 4 players)
BB checks, hero bets $12, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, BB folds.

Turn: K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($38.5, 2 players)
hero bets $19, CO calls.

River: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($76.5, 2 players)
hero???

I realize the turn bet is rather small. I'm not sure exactly how to size that bet. At the time, I wasn't in love with my hand anymore and wanted to bet just enough to make a flush draw call unprofitably. Any thoughts?

I'm not at all sure what to do on river. Maybe make a $40 blocking bet? Try to induce a bluff? Check/Fold? It just [censored] sucks to be out of position here...
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Old 12-20-2006, 12:40 AM
Fat Nicky Fat Nicky is offline
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Default Re: 100NL AQs; turn and river problems OOP v. LAG

Against this player, I think we have a thin value bet. $40 seems about right.
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Old 12-20-2006, 12:44 AM
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Default Re: 100NL AQs; turn and river problems OOP v. LAG

I don't see any value in a bet. We're chopping with any ace, and I don't see anyone showing down a Q here. Def. check, fold to a big bet.
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Old 12-20-2006, 12:48 AM
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Default Re: 100NL AQs; turn and river problems OOP v. LAG

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I don't see any value in a bet. We're chopping with any ace, and I don't see anyone showing down a Q here. Def. check, fold to a big bet.

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you're right, i can't read boards
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Old 12-20-2006, 12:49 AM
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Default Re: 100NL AQs; turn and river problems OOP v. LAG

Hoping for a call from QJ? Maybe, but it's sort of hard to imagine.

In hindsight I wonder if making a PSB on turn might have clarified things a bit. As played, I hate all my options on the river...
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Old 12-20-2006, 12:51 AM
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Default Re: 100NL AQs; turn and river problems OOP v. LAG

Bob, any thoughts on playing the turn?
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Old 12-20-2006, 12:57 AM
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Default Re: 100NL AQs; turn and river problems OOP v. LAG

It's a tough spot. Potting the turn gets rid of all the value in your hand. It's true that it will clarify the situation, but it will also drive off all the draws. I might bet a little more to discourage a bluff-raise, but I think betting mediumish on the turn is the way to go.
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