When do move up from NL25?

[GBP04]

great post...

may I ask what a good bankroll is to be playing NL cash games? I seem to think 20 buy ins is fine if you are willing to step down?

What is the accepted number?

[mosuavea]

Q: What's the proper bankroll for each limit?

A: General consensus is that a player should keep at least 20 buyins for each limit he's playing. Excluding poor beginner play, bad bankroll management is the biggest reason that new players go bust. Do yourself a favor and only play in games you can afford.

Limit: $0.01/$0.02 | Needed: $40 ($100 on Stars)
Limit: $0.05/$0.10 | Needed: $200
Limit: $0.10/$0.25 | Needed: $500
Limit: $0.25/$0.50 | Needed: $1000
Limit: $0.50/$1.00 | Needed: $2000
Limit: $1.00/$2.00 | Needed: $4000
Limit: $2.00/$4.00 | Needed: $8000

[thedustbustr]

According to Fim's excellent reply (scroll up), you don't need 20 full buyins at SSNL if you know yourself to be a winning player. Of course, if you have to ask this question you probably haven't got the history to prove yourself a winning player.

[Checkov]

What does PTBB stand for?

[Niediam]

Poker Tracker Big Bet... or x2 the big blind.

[jd_poker]

why am i playing $1/$2 limit if a 10PTBB/10 is sustainable at NL?!?!

[BalugaWhale]

First off, this is an amazing thread.

Secondly, only move up when you feel comfortable with your bankroll. I moved up to 50NL at $500 and played weak-tight as hell, so I had to drop down after I was down 150 bones.

[Riddick]

While we are on the subject, what are some attainable winrates at Pot Limit 25's and 50's?

[Niediam]

Because they do not have the same level of difficulty.

1/2 limit is the 2nd smallest level on Party but 1/2 no limit is the 4rd smallest level. A lot of B&M poker rooms have 3/6 as the smallest limit game but 1/2 as the smallest no limit game.

In addition, you need a larger bankroll for NL. The standard for limit is 300BBs but for NL it is 2500BBs (25 buyins).

[ski]

BUMP,

I am just reading this for the first time.

There are somethings I don't understand though.

"- a PFR from you doesnt always mean AA-JJ and AQs+"

Currently (200NL) it means one of these hands for me about 80-85%, the rest is PP/SC/Ax or broadways in LP/occasionally a plain steal. I am still ~16-20% PVIP depending on the game

"- your lines don't define your hand"
This is probably big enough to write a book on but isin't this entirely dependant on how intelligent your opponents are?

Sometimes I think that if I was playing against a clone of myself, I would know 100% if I am beat or not in some situations. However, this requires an in depth knowledge of my game that very few players have. Do many players have this type of knowledge at 1000NL?

I miss you fim.