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Old 12-19-2006, 08:00 AM
Jigsaws Jigsaws is offline
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Default 100 NL | 99 overpair + OESD, overbet turn shove

Villain is 39/7/1.92 over 128 hands after the session. We haven't really gotten into a hand yet at the time this hand was played. Standard call?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Hero ($105.10)
SB ($101.95)
BB ($78.25)
UTG ($58.80)
MP ($21.85)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($8.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $14</font>, Hero calls $8.

Turn: ($36.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $60.25 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $60.25.
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Old 12-19-2006, 08:01 AM
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Default Re: 100 NL || 99 overpair + OESD, overbet turn shove

fold turn?
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Old 12-19-2006, 08:06 AM
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Default Re: 100 NL || 99 overpair + OESD, overbet turn shove

Srsly? I have at least 10 outs against anything but the made straight... 16 outs vs. two pair, and I'm ahead of a lot of pair+draw combos.
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Old 12-19-2006, 08:14 AM
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Default Re: 100 NL || 99 overpair + OESD, overbet turn shove

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Srsly? I have at least 10 outs against anything but the made straight... 16 outs vs. two pair, and I'm ahead of a lot of pair+draw combos.

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How often do you think he has some sort of combo draw?
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Old 12-19-2006, 08:33 AM
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Default Re: 100 NL || 99 overpair + OESD, overbet turn shove

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How often do you think he has some sort of combo draw?

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Hmm. I'm not sure. But I have about 30% equity against his range of made hands. I'm obviously way ahead of his draws. I'm getting ~1.6666 to 1. Not sure whether that makes it a call or not. Would've been an easy call if he'd bet the pot, now it's probably marginal.
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Old 12-19-2006, 08:35 AM
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Default Re: 100 NL || 99 overpair + OESD, overbet turn shove

id fold turn.

looks to me like u have 13 outs most of the time, as this looks like a donkish 2 pair. sometimes he has a set and u have 10.
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Old 12-19-2006, 09:19 AM
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Default Re: 100 NL || 99 overpair + OESD, overbet turn shove

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How often do you think he has some sort of combo draw?

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Hmm. I'm not sure. But I have about 30% equity against his range of made hands. I'm obviously way ahead of his draws. I'm getting ~1.6666 to 1. Not sure whether that makes it a call or not. Would've been an easy call if he'd bet the pot, now it's probably marginal.

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Jigsaws, how did you come up with the 30%? Thanks
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Old 12-19-2006, 09:26 AM
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Default Re: 100 NL || 99 overpair + OESD, overbet turn shove

For some dumb reason I can't copy from PokerStove, but I ran this simulation. Board: 8h 7s 6h 3s, my hand 99, his range {JJ, 88-77, 33, 87, 86, 76}, and that's about 30% equity for 99.
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Old 12-19-2006, 09:30 AM
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Default Re: 100 NL || 99 overpair + OESD, overbet turn shove

It's just over 28% with a full 13 outs - less with 10 outs. Your pot odds are way to low to play if you're behind. You also didn't consider the possibility of his trapping this way with a large pair. Even if you think he's a wild bluffer, fold looks right because you'll probably get another chance at him later in a better situation.

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Old 12-28-2006, 06:58 PM
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Default Re: 100 NL || 99 overpair + OESD, overbet turn shove

I called because I'm a station, and the 7 on the river counterfeited his 86. Thanks for the responses.
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