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Old 12-18-2006, 12:43 AM
greyhawke54 greyhawke54 is offline
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Default Bet 5th or take the free card(razz)

Should I take the free card here or bet the draw. If I bet here I am prob getting called. So I would basically be charging myself to draw here? Based on the action though I believe I have a better 4 card hand than either of my opponents and am I pretty live.

Razz ($0.50/$1.00), Ante $0.05, Bring-In $0.25 (converter)

3rd Street - (0.70 SB)

Hero: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___brings-in
Seat 2: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 3: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 4: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 5: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 6: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 8: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds

4th Street - (2.20 SB)

Hero: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks
Seat 2: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks
Seat 5: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks

5th Street - (1.10 BB)

Hero: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks
Seat 2: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks
Seat 5: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks

6th Street - (1.10 BB)

Hero: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 2: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___folds
Seat 5: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls

River - (3.10 BB)

Hero: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 5: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] xx___checks___calls

Total pot: (5.10 BB)

Results (in white):<font color="white">

Total pot $5.10 | Rake $0.20

Hero: [2d 3h Ks 6c Ac 4d 3d] (Lo: 6,4,3,2,A)

Seat 5: [3s 8d 7d 3c Qh 6h 9d]

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Old 12-18-2006, 12:47 AM
*TT* *TT* is offline
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Default Re: Bet 5th or take the free card(razz)

First - please dont post the results until discussion is over.

4th street - pretty obvious that seat 5 paired.

5th street - bet for value.

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
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Old 12-18-2006, 02:02 AM
Andy B Andy B is offline
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Default Re: Bet 5th or take the free card(razz)

Bet fifth. You're charging the other guys to draw as well, and you have the best draw.
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Old 12-18-2006, 10:37 AM
2461Badugi 2461Badugi is offline
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Default Re: Bet 5th or take the free card(razz)

Seat 2 is weird... if he could just be superpassive you might not be ahead by much if at all.

You're balancing a moderately thin value bet, or a chance to pick up a tiny pot if they both have pairs, against a very large amount of deception for Razz. I think I like a checkthrough in hopes you improve and can extract a bet or two later. If the pot were larger it would be an easy bet.
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