OT - Poker Bots from Viet Nam in Party SNGS

[KronikBuddha]

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what exactly do these numbers mean, speaking of roi.

[/ QUOTE ]those numbers have nothing to do with roi.

[tozzy]

what am i supposed to assume then, when seeing ther 'win' and 'loss' counts.

[KronikBuddha]

I have no idea. I don't think that tells you anything about whether or not they are bots.

[billxo1b]

these are ITM %, so for Lube_Al_Anal, assuming even distribution ITM:

$55 Table: 46 wins / 62 losses / 42.59% wins: roi=29.06%
$33 Table: 84 wins / 107 losses / 43.98% wins: roi=33.27%

[J-P]

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what am i supposed to assume then, when seeing ther 'win' and 'loss' counts.

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I think "wins" is their ITM % but I'm not totally sure.

[bighairybeaver]

I was researching these players and stumbled upon this thread. There is no doubt these players are bots. What I know:

In addition to the players already mentioned, these players should be added (all Vietnam, never on thesame tables, blahblahblah):

thirdGenPoker
HiR3d_GuN
POKERchamCOM
Mi_SniP3R
LifeAfter10_11
SISLEYGANG
SeDiTion__

So the list looks like this:

thirdGenPoker
ReliGiOusDad
HiR3d_GuN
SpeCiAl____
SeDiTion__
Mi_SniP3R
POKERchamCOM
Lube_Al_Anal
BandFriendWifePhobia
Honda1975
LifeAfter10_11
SISLEYGANG

The spelling patterns send up an immediate flag. You'd think they'd go for some more subtlety...

Now, here is this weeks weekly leaderboard (as related to these players):


Rank Player Points
1 Honda1975 5322.0
2 BangFriendWifePhobia 5252.0
3 ReliGiOuSDad 4730.0
6 Lube_Al_Anal 3812.0
9 SpeCiAl___ 3468.0
11 SISLEYGANG 3209.0
13 HiR3d_GuN 3024.0
14 thirdGenPoker 2997.0
17 LifeAfter10_11 2735.0

Nine of the twenty names are all players from Nam, all of which NEVER play at the same tables. Moreover, they span all of the limits. ReligiousDad, for example, plays both the 22's and the 215's; who the hell does that? They jump on whichever tables are about to fire off; tables where their 'friends' are not already waiting.

I don't know how many Vietnamese players party has, but other than these, throughout 3 years of playing on party, I've only run into five others max. Their results go beyond coincidence.

I have over 100 tournaments with some of them, and numerous heads-up matches (and I just returned to party a week ago). I bombard them with abuse, timeout purposely, [censored] up my betting patterns, and they remain stoic and consistent.

Yeah, it could be a group of 15 V.C.'s sweat-shopping out SNG's in a generator-powered jungle hut, but it's unlikely. More likely, it's one or two guys who figured out a work-around for the U.S. ban, and go in through a Vietnamese server. As someone mentioned, Vietnam's internet and power situation is not world-leading. They would have the occasional disconnect, and these bastards never do - despite playing 18hours/day.

I reported all this [censored] to Party, along with a ton of other evidence, and they're "looking into it"...bastards. If it was Stars, it would get resolved. But Party treats its players like bar whores; disposable and filthy rotten.

[DevinLake]

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these are ITM %, so for Lube_Al_Anal, assuming even distribution ITM:

$55 Table: 46 wins / 62 losses / 42.59% wins: roi=29.06%
$33 Table: 84 wins / 107 losses / 43.98% wins: roi=33.27%

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Of course, with ITM numbers like that, you can't really assume even distributions. It is more likely they are getting more 3rds than firsts.

[bennies]

bump

[K䲰䮥n]

Bumb indeed.

Anything from the award winning PP support yet? I'm sure they'll refund all the $ i lost when Honda1975 called my pushes too loose.

[qno1337]

bump



1) Daily bumps with nothing to add are not needed.
2) The Zoo has mad bot haters/hunters - and this post is also running in that forum.

= I'm locking this. Feel free to PM me if you have important updates/evidence that you'd like to share - and I'll unlock.