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Old 12-15-2006, 09:25 AM
QueBob QueBob is offline
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Default KJs brutal pre-flop...

No reads, just sat down.

Limit: $2/$4
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Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP3 3-bets</font>, 4 folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 caps</font>, Hero ???

I'm inclined to bail out, how bout you?
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Old 12-15-2006, 09:31 AM
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Default Re: KJs brutal pre-flop...

I smell Aces, so fold
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Old 12-15-2006, 09:39 AM
Harkon Harkon is offline
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Default Re: KJs brutal pre-flop...

Yeah, it looks pretty bad. You're often dominated, and you're positioned between a limp-capper and 3-bettor, which will make the play after the flop quite tricky if you flop a mediocre-good hand like top pair or straight draw. So I would fold.
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Old 12-15-2006, 10:26 AM
Ampelmann Ampelmann is offline
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Default Re: KJs brutal pre-flop...

Fold, unless you have a read that UTG1 call/caps with trash for fun.
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Old 12-15-2006, 10:26 AM
halpgr halpgr is offline
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Default Re: KJs brutal pre-flop...

It looks bad, but you're getting 4.5:1 closing the action to see the flop. For that price you could see a flop and look to flop a monster draw.

The pot is large, your immediate odds are good, and your implied odds are substantial, as the flops that will give you a big draw will also likely give villians sets they will pay you off with. I'll say call and hope to flop a big draw, else fold the flop.
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Old 12-15-2006, 11:16 AM
jrz1972 jrz1972 is offline
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Default Re: KJs brutal pre-flop...

This really depends on my read of UTG+1. If he he's a 40/2/0.5, then yeah I'm folding. If he has some wildness to him then I'm going to call and try to flop big.

It's a close decision either way.
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Old 12-15-2006, 02:43 PM
charlie_t_jr charlie_t_jr is offline
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Default Re: KJs brutal pre-flop...

If you have the ability to fold the flop if you hit top pair and there's a lot of action...which looks like there will be, grit your teeth and call. Hope to flop big.

If you have trouble getting away from top pair hands, fold preflop.
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Old 12-15-2006, 03:23 PM
FatedEquity FatedEquity is offline
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Default Re: KJs brutal pre-flop...

I tend to fold. Against a raise and a reraise the high card strength of your hand diminishes because the chances you are dominated increases.

Some factors will persuade me to call though. If the raisers are particularly loose, and if they play rather poorly postflop.
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Old 12-15-2006, 06:01 PM
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Default Re: KJs brutal pre-flop...

three handed with just the King-high i fold this so fast my mouse breaks
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Old 12-15-2006, 06:09 PM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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Default Re: KJs brutal pre-flop...

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I'm inclined to bail out, how bout you?

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In a full ring game, I'm usually bailing out. In a 6-max game, I take a flop but proceed carefully. I can get away from one pair if it's ever two bets to me postflop. However, I might get trapped calling one and one.
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