Last Hand...3/6 T4s vs. 2+2'er (Blind vs. Blind)

[Harv72b]

Literally my first hand at the table. SB is the same 2+2'er from my 75o post (that hand happened earlier on another table). He knows me and knows my style of play. The whole time this hand was going I was having visions of the 98o hand Bob posted, and I was utterly positive that SB had read that thread. This heavily influenced my decisions in the hand, especially on the river.

Thoughts?

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $3/$6
8 players
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Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
6 folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (3SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

Turn: (2.5BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

River: (4.5BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets for value...</font>

[Alex424]

i wouldn't call preflop

i cant see a 2+2'er calling you on the river with a worse hand than what you have so i would check it down.

[lasa]

Assuming it's someone who steals with a lot of hands I like it all. Against many opponents I'd fold PF or check through river though.

[Allday Everyday]

I wouldn't always call this preflop. I would only call against regular stealers and I don't think I'd call against them every time. I always like defending from BB vs SB with position postflop.

SB checks the flop after raising PF? This seems odd. I think you have a very strong hand and your bet is good.

I think the turn bet is good. I quite like the river value bet.

[James.]

perfect. and this is undoubtably NOT a fold PF.

[Alex424]

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perfect. and this is undoubtably NOT a fold PF.

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Please explain why so sure?

[James.]

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perfect. and this is undoubtably NOT a fold PF.

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Please explain why so sure?

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for one, i will raise any two cards from the SB in that situation about 98% of the time. add to this the fact that we will have position throughout the hand and we have a pretty easy call as long as you don't suck postflop. similar to the Peter Rus rule.

[Harv72b]

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Please explain why so sure?

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The only times when this will be a bad (preflop) call are when you are dominated by the initial raiser, either to a pocket pair greater than 33, or in traditional terms against AT or K4 or something. Aside from that, the 3:1 pot odds you are getting preflop are sufficient to call, even if you know that your opponent has AK or something. In fact, your preflop call becomes even better if you know he has AK, because so many players won't fold that hand in a blind vs. blind situation. So you have a hand that you can easily muck when you miss, but he has a hand that he will often call down with when you hit...implied odds.

So as long as you are capable of making good decisions postflop (they don't even necessarily have to better than your opponent's, just good), you should be calling with just about any two cards vs. a SB openraise. Especially if they're sooted. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Alex424]

thats interesting. A big leak of mine is defending the BB from possible steal, after rigously following sshe hand selection in the blinds, but after viewing my stats and reading posts on here for last 20K i am giving up too easily it appears.

[Hielko]

Nice river bet. Villains range is probably a lot of A-high hands that are going to call the river.