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#12
12-14-2006, 04:48 PM
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Re: low FD flop action
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[ QUOTE ] If we aren't calling a shove, I don't think we should raise... [/ QUOTE ] Why not? [/ QUOTE ] a lot of his holdings can shove and the ones that can't probably won't be able to bet or call again in the hand. 
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#13
12-14-2006, 04:53 PM
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Re: low FD flop action
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] If we aren't calling a shove, I don't think we should raise... [/ QUOTE ] Why not? [/ QUOTE ] a lot of his holdings can shove and the ones that can't probably won't be able to bet or call again in the hand. [/ QUOTE ] that's just wrong. u think he's gonna call/push 99 or kt if u raise the flop? also, even with position, your outs are transparent. you should call sometimes here, but my default would be raise/fold to a push unless the guy is a huge nit he has a super tight range here.
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#14
12-14-2006, 04:55 PM
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Re: low FD flop action
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] If we aren't calling a shove, I don't think we should raise... [/ QUOTE ] Why not? [/ QUOTE ] a lot of his holdings can shove and the ones that can't probably won't be able to bet or call again in the hand. [/ QUOTE ] that's just wrong. u think he's gonna call/push 99 or kt if u raise the flop? also, even with position, your outs are transparent. you should call sometimes here, but my default would be raise/fold to a push unless the guy is a huge nit he has a super tight range here. [/ QUOTE ] you think KT and 99 are going to put any more money in to the pot if we call the flop?
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#15
12-14-2006, 04:58 PM
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Re: low FD flop action
You honestly think he flat calls more hands than he pushes? If you're going to raise and fold to a push do it when you don't have anything, not when you have a flush draw.
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#16
12-14-2006, 04:59 PM
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Re: low FD flop action
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you think KT and 99 are going to put any more money in to the pot if we call the flop? [/ QUOTE ] do you WANT KT and 99 to put more money in the pot?
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#17
12-14-2006, 05:00 PM
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Re: low FD flop action
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You honestly think he flat calls more hands than he pushes? If you're going to raise and fold to a push do it when you don't have anything, not when you have a flush draw. [/ QUOTE ] the argument is that he folds a lot of his hands. I think this is a flop that is hard to bet at with a lot of marginal holdings.
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#18
12-14-2006, 05:00 PM
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Re: low FD flop action
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[ QUOTE ] you think KT and 99 are going to put any more money in to the pot if we call the flop? [/ QUOTE ] do you WANT KT and 99 to put more money in the pot? [/ QUOTE ] srsly true....i was just proving you made a pretty bad point. kt/99 probably won't put any more money in the pot after the flop if we call but that's not the point.
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#19
12-14-2006, 05:01 PM
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Re: low FD flop action
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[ QUOTE ] you think KT and 99 are going to put any more money in to the pot if we call the flop? [/ QUOTE ] do you WANT KT and 99 to put more money in the pot? [/ QUOTE ] wtf is this supposed to mean?
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#20
12-14-2006, 05:01 PM
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Re: low FD flop action
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[ QUOTE ] You honestly think he flat calls more hands than he pushes? If you're going to raise and fold to a push do it when you don't have anything, not when you have a flush draw. [/ QUOTE ] the argument is that he folds a lot of his hands. I think this is a flop that is hard to bet at with a lot of marginal holdings. [/ QUOTE ] thats a reasonable point, it did go 3 ways to the flop. i think i missed that the first time around.
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