KJo, ITM in FT 15k, shortish stack

[willw9]

Lot of history here. The hand before I got moved to this table, I lost a 3 way all in with AKs vs. AQo vs. 1010, such that if I lost to the 10 10 but beat the AQ, I would still come out ahead in the hand due to stack sizes. A Q hit the river, and I went from 15k to 4.5k with 400/800/50 blinds. Next hand, I get moved to this table. I must have pushed 6/10 ensuing hands, and only when I was called the 6th time with KQo vs. my J8s did I spike a J and double up. I played pretty tight thereafter, managed to win a big hand with AQo vs. AKs to put me at 25k, and I then lost a huuge pot with AKo vs. 107s the hand before this which would have put me at 35k and top 10 in chips. The table was very TAG as shown by the 5 pots I was able to pick up unconstested as a short stack. However, I had an extremely LAG image and was probably perceived as tilting after the AKo hand. Here she is.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t600/t1200
(Ante: t150)
8 players
Converter


Stack sizes:
UTG: t14970
UTG+1: t58102
Hero: t14208
MP2: t11451
CO: t29601
Button: t7105
SB: t19466
BB: t35335


Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is MP1 with K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, Hero raises all-in t14058, 4 folds, BB calls t12858 (pot was t17058).


Flop: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t29916, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t29916)



Turn: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t29916, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t29916)



River: T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t29916, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t29916)

After this hand, my friend and I argued for a long time. He mentioned that while I do have around 11 big blinds, I am not in bad shape. Against your average donk, a resteal here does have more FE than it should (when considering pot odds), mainly because they are forced to risk a large % of their stack and just don't want to. In my mind, this play could go either way, but I decided I wanted to lean towards the aggressive side; I find myself short late in MTTs waaaay to often. Push or wait?

[betgo]

I would push this with Full Tilt's ante.

[Joe7280]

Wait for a better spot to shove this. Like your freind said, you have enough chips to let a few hands go. And K/Jos is way to weak with 4 players behind you to act to shove. If anything, min raise to see where you are, if reraised big, let it go. Often times given the stack sizes players will perceive you to be pot comitted by coming in for min-raise since you are dedicating 20% of your stack, and will fold unless they have a monster. Then again, you have been very LAG by your own admission and can be perceived to be raising with any two, so you were inviting an all in either way...Man, that was deep...

[sapsuckah]

Too early position for me with 11 BBs. I pass this one up and wait. Since the table is tight you should be able to get at least two opportunities next orbit to open-push from better position and get the blinds (not including the possibility of being dealt a monster, of course).

Matt

[betgo]

This is pretty much a live-sized ante. You have an M of 4.5. I can't see how a push isn't cEV+. I am not sure if miniraising is better than pushing.

[DDBeast]

Just plugged it into SNGPT, it's +.8%, given liberal ranges of 66+,ATs+,AJ+. However, I think it is better to make a 2.5bb raise and fold to a push. Opponents may put you on a monster, giving you more fold equity, and you can get away from the hand with minimal investment.

Edit: Just now read about your image. I think if you raise anything less than a push you'll have a pile of chips in your face, but I still think a push is good.

[illini43]

This is either push/fold.

I'm leaning towards fold because you are in relatively early position with a LAG image and KJo isn't that strong. If you are CO I am pushing.

I'd rather push 92o from CO or button on tight blinds than KJo in MP1 against a table where I've been lagging it up.

[illini43]

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Just plugged it into SNGPT, it's +.8%, given liberal ranges of 66+,ATs+,AJ+. However, I think it is better to make a 2.5bb raise and fold to a push. Opponents may put you on a monster, giving you more fold equity, and you can get away from the hand with minimal investment.

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I think raising to 3000 is making yourself a target for a re-raise. You can't really call a push with this hand, so I'd rather push and maximize my FE than raise and hope everyone folds.

[SuperUberBob]

Shove. Hell, I'd shove if I had a weaker hand than KJ.

If there was a raise in front of you, then a fold would be more reasonable. But if you're first in to the pot, give it a shot.

[Squale88]

I'll usually shove with the top 20% from MP with an M < 5.

Every now and then I'll decide that the table has had enough of me and I'll tighten up to the top 10% through MP but most of the time this is a shove.