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Old 12-14-2006, 05:42 AM
mbman mbman is offline
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Default Re: qq overpair vs bad player

Look at his aggression factor, that is pretty damn low. And now he is taking the call flop raise turn-line? Fishes taking that line can beat overpair about 99% of the time.
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Old 12-14-2006, 05:51 AM
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Default Re: qq overpair vs bad player

Err he called the flop and minreraised your turn bet. He'll have a 2p+ A LOT here. I still don't fold it for 70bb though...
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Old 12-14-2006, 09:23 AM
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Default Re: qq overpair vs bad player

i don't fold here, but it's closer than people make it out to be. 70BB is also pretty close to 100, it's not like this is $30 or something.

that said, i do think you see T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]x[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] a good deal here, as well as just a good T like AT or something, and against a player this bad you just can't trust his opinion of what a good hand is to fold, but do know that he's telling you he thinks he has a good hand.
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Old 12-14-2006, 09:31 AM
ValarMorghulis ValarMorghulis is offline
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Default Re: qq overpair vs bad player

I dunno, I'm tempted to fold. He's not very aggressive and what ten does he call the flop bet with?
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Old 12-14-2006, 12:37 PM
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Default Re: qq overpair vs bad player

I agree with the last few posters this is very close given the aggression rating. I think it is rare that someone this passive comes over the top with one pair. If it were 70 bbs I would fold for sure, but this is closer to 40 considering the money already in, so it is close. It would depend on how big my sample was, and what I had seen up to that point. If I had to guess he either has a set or something like 10/8.
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Old 12-14-2006, 12:49 PM
T0ne D0wn T0ne D0wn is offline
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Default Re: qq overpair vs bad player

preflop I might limp with that many people in the pot QQ is difficul to play. Especially if an ace or king flops. PLus your hand is really disguised if all unders flop.

Since you decided to be super agressive and not limp preflop I would probally fold turn. Looks like he has a set of fives or 85.
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Old 12-14-2006, 12:51 PM
Kilillan Kilillan is offline
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Default Re: qq overpair vs bad player

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preflop I might limp with that many people in the pot QQ is difficul to play. Especially if an ace or king flops. PLus your hand is really disguised if all unders flop.

Since you decided to be super agressive and not limp preflop I would probally fold turn. Looks like he has a set of fives or 85.

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Old 12-14-2006, 12:56 PM
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Default Re: qq overpair vs bad player

hes for real.. he's from liquidpoker.net

edit: maybe he's not? he knows who grimstarr is!

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...age=0&vc=1


bk,

i don't think it's as cut and dry as some ppl are saying - this hand plays much better if we are doing the betting and the station is doing the calling. i wouldn't fault you for folding here. but it shouldnt be a regular happening at all.
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Old 12-14-2006, 01:00 PM
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Default Re: qq overpair vs bad player

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preflop I might limp with that many people in the pot QQ is difficul to play. Especially if an ace or king flops. PLus your hand is really disguised if all unders flop.

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I agree. Plus you want to keep as many customers as you can. Maybe you can minraise preflop but it would really suck if someone reminraises you. Then you'll have a tough decision if you want to cap the betting or just smooth call.
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