Why do the Live Players...... - Page 4

usaftrevor · #31 12-13-2006, 04:29 PM

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So what is the difference between PAHUD showing me that a player is 23/3/5 and knowing that Frank is tight, aggressive post flop and rarely raises PF and generally only big pairs?

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you said the difference yourself: PAHUD shows you. You don't have to remember it. Other diffrences include but are not limited to:

fewer hands / hr in live games
higher rotation of faces you've never seen before and may never see again (in a casino)
those that you do recognize, if they're worth remembering, they'll probably remember you, too - and adjust.
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alcohol abounds
a seat at the poker table is no different from a seat at a table game to many gamboooolers. this is the kicker right here. biggest reason why live is so much easier.

and then you've also got consider all the reasons recreational players pony up to the table... just for the competition, kill time, maybe they just hate money...

live poker will have its ups and downs, but i don't see it fading into the distance any time before the sun burns out.

MandM_WSU · #32 12-13-2006, 04:29 PM

I think most on-line players (rec players, not 6-tablers) who win and know how to play good cards will do well at live play. I have. I was probably only a 1BB/hour on-line player and I'm about 1.5BB/hr live. I also think live is a lot more fun, I feel like I'm really playing cards because I can physically touch the cards and chips. On-line play become like a drone and is only fun for so long. But that's just my $0.02.

MM

GoAheadRiverMe · #33 12-13-2006, 09:33 PM

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Uh have you ever SEEN live at the bike? When someone says a game is good, they mean the players are bad.

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Sorry, never watched it.

scott2130 · #34 12-13-2006, 09:53 PM

All of these answers are correct. I drive 40+ minutes to play in games that resemble online. I even play up to 20/40 live and mostly 2/4 online. (The 20/40 last weekend played like 4/8, just with red chips) At the local casino worth going to, I hear, "I work for a living, not play poker" The casino offers free sandwhiches, soup, and self serve drinks. Hell I go for dinner and leave with a few dollars in my pocket.

The bottom line is that it is just like blackjack and craps to them. They are suppose to loose and the eventually do.

Frond · #35 12-13-2006, 11:53 PM

I was taken back at the really bad play that I witnessed when I played live for teh very first time this year. I was so concerned about looking like a fool and giving away tells etc. I was really nervous needles to say, but afgter about 5 hands, i told myslef that I was easily one the best if ni the best player at the table(not a brag at all believe me). This was only 2-4 LHE and $40 max NLHE but still I was expecting way better players. I am still a beginner but I study the game and play a lot. I haev yet to play hogher than any game that is more than 3-6 but I haev played stud, Omaha ,LHE and NLHE and theryre all bad.

GHL · #36 12-14-2006, 02:13 AM

A lot of live players are straight up degenerate gamblers.... they're there because the internet doesn't actually feed them.... or give them beer. Also they lose their money a bit slower (sometimes not) than they do at slots/craps/whatever.

They don't seem to ever leave.. they smell... they drink to much... and often borrow money.. when you get up to go to the bathroom you'll notice they took 15 bucks off the table to spin the roulette wheel... because they can't go take a leak and come back without betting.

Where some of these players get their money is beyone me.. but they go into their pocket over and over and over.... sometimes its depressing to watch them waste their lives away.

This isn't really the case in bigger gambling destinations like vegas... but there are some of them there too....

One time I was playing a late night 9/18 game at bellagio where some lady had her 7-10 year old kid sitting next to her... the lady was dumping chips like the titanic. The kid kept saying "mommy i'm tired" and she kept telling the kid to quiet down that mommy was going to win some money... I think eventually the floor asked her to leave.

Bulbarainey · #37 12-14-2006, 05:56 AM

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Getting drunk will make pretty much anyone play badly.

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I dont always agree with that... after the 11th shot my omaha game becomes top notch

MVPSPORTS · #38 12-14-2006, 05:57 AM

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Getting drunk will make pretty much anyone play badly.

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I dont always agree with that... after the 11th shot my omaha game becomes top notch

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After 11 shots, are you sure you're playing Omaha and not just seein double?

EgoSlasher · #39 12-14-2006, 01:03 PM

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Because live players don't have cheatwear to do their thinking for them. Live players have to pay attention to the players, they have to pay attention to the action, and not all of them are up to it. Cheatwear at home is what make average and crappy online players good. When they get away from their cheatwear, no so goooood......

For the nits who will attack this post, when I say cheatware I'm referring to Poker HUD and other apps like that, not the software that claims to let you see your opponents cards.

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lol, worst post ever

midas · #40 12-14-2006, 01:52 PM

Rich:

I don't really understand your post.

Are you saying that everyone should go to their local B&M cardroom because the players are so bad and you are making tons of cash? Or, are you saying that the bad (not by the book) play is causing you to get sucked out on more than online and you are losing money?

I'm an exclusively live player myself and I've never heard anyone complain about making too much $$$. In fact, we love when you online experts come to town to teach us how to play poker [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img].