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Old 12-13-2006, 04:43 PM
NickPoker NickPoker is offline
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Default Re: 2pair 200BBs deep

Villain's range would have to include AK correct, also he could be using the ace as a scare card. BTW, I don't really like the preflop call from oop with a drawing type hand.
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Old 12-13-2006, 04:49 PM
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Default Re: 2pair 200BBs deep

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Villain's range would have to include AK correct, also he could be using the ace as a scare card. BTW, I don't really like the preflop call from oop with a drawing type hand.

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AK would only be AKc, and probably would not shove turn

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so what does op beat that is shoving that turn?

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A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] x [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], or most pair plus draws. Call.

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I would imagine that a drawing hand with showdown value would not shove the turn...
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:16 PM
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Default Re: 2pair 200BBs deep

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You are assuming the villain is a good player. I think there is a good chance that the villain puts hero on a hand like JJ or QQ, and is trying to bluff him off the hand. There is also chance that he has AA, and puts hero on a set. Either way AA is the only hand I can see the hero behind against, so I think you have to call.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:24 PM
Ebonwoulfe Ebonwoulfe is offline
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Default Re: 2pair 200BBs deep

I don't think I can find a fold here. I think there's a good chance he's trying to leverage the A. I think he has something like 99 and is hoping the A will scare you off a bigger PP (which he thinks you might have).

I don't think AA would just call that flop, unless doing it for pot control reasons. It's awfully draw heavy.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:31 PM
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Default Re: 2pair 200BBs deep

I don't understand why you're betting so small in order to induce a raise on the flop. This is a prety ugly flop and I'd be very happy to be able to call such a small bet if I was drawing big here.

Just bet normal psb here on the flop and follow up on the turn.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:38 PM
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Default Re: 2pair 200BBs deep

yeah easy call.

he could have a combo draw and use that ace as a scare-card. The ace really doesn't complete a lot of likely hands that beat you, A5, A8 and AA. All are more unlikely than a big draw
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