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Old 12-11-2006, 03:57 AM
DLizzle DLizzle is offline
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Default Push River?

Standard push here or flat call? I feel like he really likes his hand, what worse ones am I getting called by here? I probably lean toward a push but with such deep stacks I'm not sure.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $7.50/$15
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $3000
UTG+1: $3345.50
CO: $1811.80
DLizzle: $3309
SB: $3222.50
BB: $3358.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) DLizzle is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $60</font>, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">DLizzle raises to $240</font>, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($517.5, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">DLizzle bets $405</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1327.5, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, DLizzle checks.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($1327.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $1110</font>
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Old 12-11-2006, 04:03 AM
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Default Re: Push River?

wow, yea.
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Old 12-11-2006, 04:34 AM
aejones aejones is offline
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Default Re: Push River?

I enjoy a call, I think KK/QQ might find a fold here. This deep, he can show up with 8x sometimes. He can also have and set that made a boat. I think you played the hand well and induced a v-bet from a worse hand but I'd just call the river.

I mean since what we're really targeting value from here is AJ, KK, and QQ- he's got to think you're on a pure bluff to call with any of those right? And since I think it's safe to assume you don't river bluff raise here too often with these stacks, calling looks correct in case he does show up with a monster.
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Old 12-11-2006, 08:13 AM
AAismyfriend AAismyfriend is offline
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Default Re: Push River?

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I enjoy a call, I think KK/QQ might find a fold here. This deep, he can show up with 8x sometimes. He can also have and set that made a boat. I think you played the hand well and induced a v-bet from a worse hand but I'd just call the river.

I mean since what we're really targeting value from here is AJ, KK, and QQ- he's got to think you're on a pure bluff to call with any of those right? And since I think it's safe to assume you don't river bluff raise here too often with these stacks, calling looks correct in case he does show up with a monster.

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yea, what he said
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Old 12-11-2006, 08:48 AM
Poker_Hoar Poker_Hoar is offline
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Default Re: Push River?

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I enjoy a call, I think KK/QQ might find a fold here. This deep, he can show up with 8x sometimes. He can also have and set that made a boat. I think you played the hand well and induced a v-bet from a worse hand but I'd just call the river.

I mean since what we're really targeting value from here is AJ, KK, and QQ- he's got to think you're on a pure bluff to call with any of those right? And since I think it's safe to assume you don't river bluff raise here too often with these stacks, calling looks correct in case he does show up with a monster.

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Very Nice.
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Old 12-11-2006, 11:06 AM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Default Re: Push River?

Call, if his river bet was smaller a raise and folding woulda been ok.
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Old 12-11-2006, 01:06 PM
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Default Re: Push River?

Call or fold.

Raise here is bad.
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Old 12-11-2006, 05:04 PM
DLizzle DLizzle is offline
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Default Re: Push River?

ok good i called and he showed KK. I think he may have found a fold with KK though.
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Old 12-11-2006, 05:47 PM
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If your adequately rolled I push this river 100% of the time, in the long run way more +ev then calling.
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Old 12-11-2006, 07:46 PM
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Default Re: Push River?

I think the turn check behind the the bad part of this hand. You should bet 75-100% of the pot and be looking to stack him with turn and river bets.
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