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Old 12-10-2006, 12:29 PM
scooby scooby is offline
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Default Live 5/5 game AQ flops doublegutter in huge pot

Fantastic private 5/5 game that I'm just killing. People are playing too loose or too tight and I'm up over 1.5K already and have over 2k behind me. It's running around nine handed at the time, I think, and I open A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] UTG+1 for 20 (though sometimes I'll limp this given the game dynamics). I get called in two places behind me, in the SB, and the BB. Told you it's a good game. Anyway, flop comes down:
J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (with 100 in it)

SB, who's playing pretty tightly, leads into me for 70. He's only playing with 500 behind. BB, who's got about 1K behind, calls, and I decide just to call as well. One person behind folds, and the last cold caller, with about 1k behind, raises to 250, which seemed kind of strange. He's been reasonably active and competent, but might be steaming a bit from taking a brutal beat earlier in a PLO8 round. SB thinks for a bit and then folds. BB folds, and I just call.

Turn is something like 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or another total blank. I check, he bets 400, leaving him a little over 300 left, into a pot of 740, and I fold.

Standard on all streets? I'm not great in multiway pots.
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Old 12-10-2006, 02:23 PM
Poker_Hoar Poker_Hoar is offline
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Default Re: Live 5/5 game AQ flops doublegutter in huge pot

Why do you want to play AQos in early position in a certain mutli way pot? And why would you want to build the pot while playing your AQ that way. I think given what you know about the game dynamics your pre flop play will really hurt you over time.
I think you do not get the required odds to call for $70 on the flop (unless you are certain the players acting behind you will all call). I think you are throwing money away calling the raise.

The fold on the turn is a good idea.

If these guys showed-down with crap then just be happy that you will have a chance later to stack their terrible play.
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Old 12-10-2006, 03:06 PM
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Default Re: Live 5/5 game AQ flops doublegutter in huge pot

This is a perfect spot for you LP player to pickup a nice pot with so much "dead" money in the pot. It is a move he could be making with any two cards. Your flat call/check screams draw and it is very easy for him to fire the second barrel knowing you are folding 9/10 times.

On the flop you need to RR or fold.
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Old 12-10-2006, 03:38 PM
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Default Re: Live 5/5 game AQ flops doublegutter in huge pot

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This is a perfect spot for you LP player to pickup a nice pot with so much "dead" money in the pot. It is a move he could be making with any two cards. Your flat call/check screams draw and it is very easy for him to fire the second barrel knowing you are folding 9/10 times.

On the flop you need to RR or fold.

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I like the balls of the re-raise on the flop. Do you do this often on this kind of action? You ever fold to AI on the turn if called? Just curious.
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Old 12-11-2006, 05:03 PM
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Default Re: Live 5/5 game AQ flops doublegutter in huge pot

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This is a perfect spot for you LP player to pickup a nice pot with so much "dead" money in the pot. It is a move he could be making with any two cards. Your flat call/check screams draw and it is very easy for him to fire the second barrel knowing you are folding 9/10 times.

On the flop you need to RR or fold.

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I like the balls of the re-raise on the flop. Do you do this often on this kind of action?

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No it is not a common play of mine. I need to have a solid read on the table, especially the LP player making the play, have the right table image myself and the right players in the game. As described by the OP I am making this play a lot here. It really smells like a move or a hand where I can get a better hand to lay down.

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You ever fold to AI on the turn if called? Just curious.

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The vast majority of the time when I use this, everyone is folding or pushing. If I am called, I have first action. I need to pickup and strong draw or higher pair than the board to call an AI assuming I check or lead for less than AI.
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