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Old 12-09-2006, 11:51 PM
ratholeusoul ratholeusoul is offline
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Default 400nl: preflop hell with QQ 250bb deep

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $394
CO: $611.30
Hero: $1164
SB: $1524.70
BB: $430.40

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $16</font>, CO folds, Hero calls, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $52</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $200</font>, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises all-in $394</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1186, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $1186)
SB checks.



Playing on a laptop in bed, no tracker/hud. UTG recently joined table, been raising actively nearly every hand this orbit. The guy behind me 3bets like a woman on a sale. I was expecting a squeeze, so I called with my QQ. Then, UTG takes a long pause to call. I get my chance to go over the top.
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Old 12-10-2006, 01:01 AM
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Default Re: 400nl: preflop hell with QQ 250bb deep

sure UTG has crap. But now SB has you beat, and you have an overpair deep.. I try to check it down.
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Old 12-10-2006, 01:21 AM
Genitruc Genitruc is offline
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Default Re: 400nl: preflop hell with QQ 250bb deep

lol this is gross

not much to say only way you win is if you're dealing with a donk who can t fold AK
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Old 12-10-2006, 01:33 AM
DJ Sensei DJ Sensei is offline
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Default Re: 400nl: preflop hell with QQ 250bb deep

i'd probably check here, then value bet most turns if checked to. exceptions being A, K, or J.
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Old 12-10-2006, 03:14 AM
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Default Re: 400nl: preflop hell with QQ 250bb deep

expecting a squeeze? Do you honestly get squeezed 30-50% of the time someone raises UTG and you call? I don't think thats even close to reality in a random 2-4 NL 6 max game.

I would reraise preflop the large majority of the time here, given the late position of the first raise (forgive me I play mostly full ring), but of course its ok to call too.

I dunno I guess the rest of the hand is fine, but really annoying. Too hard to say what I'd do, but I'd usually suspect the SB doesn't have AA based on their action. Pot is really really big, a lot of guys aren't going to get greedy trying to get like $700 more of action in a pot that already has about $1200 in it.

I'd check anyway though because I'd be scared of KK, which is a completely reasonable hand for them to have based on the action.
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