How's my combo draw play? NL100

Medrakil · #1 12-09-2006, 10:04 AM

Villain is an incredible 57/4/0.6 over ~100 hands (at the time, 141 now), but has been doing all kinds of stuff to me since i have been raising very light in position and c-betting a lot.

Poker Room skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $73.10
Hero: $118.60
Button: $98.25
SB: $4
BB: $315.15

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, Hero raises to $3.5, Button calls $3.5 (pot was $5), SB calls all-in $3.5, BB folds, BB folds, Hero calls $0.5 (pot was $11.5), Button calls $0.5 (pot was $12).

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($13, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $13)
Hero bets $7, Button calls $7 (pot was $20).

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($27, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $13, Sidepot 1: $14)
Hero bets $17, Button raises to $50, Hero raises all-in $90.6, Button calls all-in $37.25.
Uncalled bets: $3.35 returned to Hero.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($201.5, 0 player + 3 all-in - Main pot: $13, Sidepot 1: $188.5)

Results:
Final pot: $201.5

No read on villain in this one, new table.

Poker Room skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
3 players
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Stack sizes:
Button: $46.10
SB: $126.45
Hero: $100

Pre-flop: (3 players) Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Button calls, SB raises to $1.5, Hero calls $1 (pot was $3), Button calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($4.5, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5, Button calls, SB folds.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($14.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $10, Button raises all-in $39.1, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $29.1 returned to Button.

Results:
Final pot: $34.5

NL Newbie · #2 12-09-2006, 10:30 AM

1st hand kinda sucks since paired board and he has a redraw alot or your dead or maybe have 11outs(QQ+FD) 22% prob gotta ditch it as i think your behind.

100:30 so 3:1 w/22% hmm yeh fold.

2nd one you prob have 9+2+3 = 14 * 2 = 28%.

65:30
2:1
Call.

patrick10 · #3 12-09-2006, 11:31 AM

both look ok

maybe a $10 bet on flop of hand 1 instead of 7, it hink the turn push i s ok given his stats and your hand

hand 2 i think fold is perfectly fine, blocking bet on turn i dont see aprob with- you didnt really have much info since the preflop riase was only to 1.5 ...

goofyballer · #4 12-09-2006, 11:49 AM

Hand 1: CB more, if you lead turn then lead bigger, as played he prob has a 4 given his passive AF and you aren't pushing him off of it by shoving, I srsly consider calling and folding riv or even folding outright, however I warn you that I didn't consider the math whatsoever when making this statement; I would imagine you have 10 outs like the dude above me said (I disagree w/ 11 b/c one club is either in his hand or will give him a boat), go figure out if you have odds to call

Hand 2: wtf you have a billion outs why are you folding, gutshot + FD + pair = THE NUTS

Imagethegod · #5 12-09-2006, 11:52 AM

first hand, bet more on flop, 12 ish

second hand looks like a steal but with no reads I almost always call here

Medrakil · #6 12-09-2006, 12:29 PM

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first hand, bet more on flop, 12 ish

second hand looks like a steal but with no reads I almost always call here

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Bet almost 3x pot?

Second hand i ran i pokerstove real quick ingame, can't remember what i ran it against though, but i found that it was on the too expensive side of borderline and elected to fold, because outs might not be live or something like that.

Villain had a sick holding in the 1st hand...

Medrakil · #7 12-09-2006, 02:47 PM

Oh damn, got i wrong, 1st hand bet 12, yeah. I usually bet 7 into 10 or 11, and 9ish into 13. Must have missed a slider click or something here... Should i vary this according to how well I hit/flop texture? and should it generally be more?

Also villain's hand wasn't that sick, he had Kd8d . Weird flop call though, but i guess he decided whatever I had was behind king high (and what a monster read :P) - I was just a little disappointed about the beat..

Imagethegod · #8 12-09-2006, 03:18 PM

Personally I like to randomly bet 80-100% on flops like this, a <70% bet still allows a lot of trash in. If you would have potted the flop that hand is getting mucked the majority of the time

nextgenneo · #9 12-09-2006, 03:21 PM

Hand 1 isnt great because combo draws to the non nuts on paired boards means you could be counterfeited if he has better draw or drawing almost dead if he has boat etc.

Hand 2 I think is fine on every street, gotta bet flop and turn, its probably a call on the turn but your ev in calling isnt much higher than the 0 ev of folding so it depends on if you can handle the variance. I'd call everyday

keikiwai · #10 12-09-2006, 03:22 PM

checking and calling turn in hand 1 is a solid option imo