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Old 12-09-2006, 01:09 AM
FastPlaySlow FastPlaySlow is offline
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Default KK, nasty turn

Read: Villian is a loose and bad player. He's been calling down with a lot of dominated hands. I felt he could have a 7 just as easily as an overpair. When he shoves all-in on the turn, I think I'm beat. What do you guys think?

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Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $224.45
Hero: $195.05
CO: $145.20
Button: $94
SB: $40.50
BB: $39

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4.5</font>, 3 folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($14, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $12</font>, BB calls, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $38</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $107</font>, BB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($240, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG is all-in $124.95</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero ?

Results:
Final pot: $431.1
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Old 12-09-2006, 03:23 AM
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Default Re: KK, nasty turn

I think flop 3-bet is fine after I realized BB cold called your bet. If you think he does this with 88-QQ nearly always, I'm okay with it. Though he has repped a ton of strength w. his flop c/r.
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Old 12-09-2006, 03:30 AM
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Default Re: KK, nasty turn

odds to call baby. i mean, sets and trips are well within in range but you're trying to justify your call by suggesting he plays 88-QQ this way, as well as some weird A high bluff stuff or something. but i think we prob need to call this now.
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Old 12-09-2006, 03:31 AM
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Default Re: KK, nasty turn

turn is not nasty... imo, it doesn't change the relative strength of your hands....

villain does not do that flop c-r w/ A7 or whatever other lone 7... so if you were ahead on flop, you're ahead now.... however, you are often not ahead on the flop.... i hate calling these, but i'm not quiet comfortable enough w/ my hand reading to tell you what to do
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Old 12-09-2006, 03:33 AM
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keikiwai, certain people cannot change their avatars and you happen to be one of them IMO. bring back the lollercoaster!
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Old 12-09-2006, 03:34 AM
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Default Re: KK, nasty turn

Yeah, I like the whole line, especially if he's loose and he's been going to SD with weak holdings...Call
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Old 12-09-2006, 03:34 AM
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keikiwai, certain people cannot change their avatars and you happen to be one of them IMO. bring back the lollercoaster!

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actually, i may go back to the one before that... hang on!
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Old 12-09-2006, 12:16 PM
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Default Re: KK, nasty turn

as played = wtf, call, it's like half pot and he could obv be bluffing at the scare card

once you 3b flop you're committing to stacking off here since you didn't give him anywhere near the requisite odds to hit a 5 outer
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