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Old 12-09-2006, 02:37 AM
carnivalhobo carnivalhobo is offline
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A8 and 1010 most likely

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these are almost never in villains range.

i think this is a fold but its close.
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Old 12-09-2006, 02:44 AM
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Default Re: ugly ugly AA hand

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A8 and 1010 most likely

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these are almost never in villains range.

i think this is a fold but its close.

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I disagree, I've played very similar hands and on flops like this villains love to semi-bluff with hands like those, especially at this limit.
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Old 12-09-2006, 02:45 AM
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A8 and 1010 most likely

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these are almost never in villains range.

i think this is a fold but its close.

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I disagree, I've played very similar hands and on flops like this villains love to semi-bluff with hands like those, especially at this limit.

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TT is an easy 3bet preflop and after playing with wtfsvi for the first time tonight, i dont think he is calling raises OOP with A8s or A8o.

From the way the hand went down i think he can beat 1 pair too often to call this river.
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Old 12-09-2006, 03:20 AM
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I think river is a fold. I also think flop is a call alot (instead of a raise). I don't think he calls a raise with enough hands that we beat.
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Old 12-09-2006, 03:35 AM
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i almost always call the river and i almost always do not win.
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Old 12-09-2006, 03:36 AM
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and i agree with orange that perhaps a flop raise isn't required here, as i think his range is made up mostly of sets/draws when he calls/pushes and rarely TP/bluff/weak overpairs that we want coming along.
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Old 12-09-2006, 05:44 AM
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I normally just call the flop here it looks like he wants to bet/3bet and i dont think you are that great vs his range

I'd much rather play for a small pot on that board

Easy fold on the river, when he calls the raise he most likely has some combo draw of some sorts although depends what his range is preflop

dont think a hand like TT bets the river expecting AA to fold so i think you are mostly beat
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Old 12-09-2006, 05:59 AM
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i call expect to see a better hand
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Old 12-15-2006, 09:34 PM
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You should fold against me. If I recall correctly you did, and I didn't like it. This depends on how aggressive you are preflop to some degree, though.
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Old 12-15-2006, 09:39 PM
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i almost always call the river and i almost always do not win.

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