200nl: bottom set in 3 way reraised pf pot

[gumpzilla]

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sure, in 100x bb effective stacks thats def something to worry about. but reraising this flop makes stacks really aqkward to get it in on the turn, plus we are conveying HUGE strength and will prob get AA to fold which is horrible.

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Calling the raise doesn't exactly look weak. And there are a ton of turns that either kill our action or force us to slow down: diamond, A, K or Q. Also, given that it's a reraised pot, I have to think that AA is slowing down if called in 2 spots anyway, unless it's BB that has it and he repops right here.

For that reason, I like reraising right now.

[Ness3]

nation,

these spots suck.

if you shove, any decent player is going to assume yo uhave either a set or a very strong combo draw--i wouldn't expect you to push with say AQs or QJs in this spot, unless you were aware of a certain dynamic between the two players ahead of you.

unless i have a read that the player pushing over the bet and raise is trying to steal the money in the middle, i would heavily weight your range towards a set.


the flip side of the coin is UTG most likely has an overpair, but could very easily hold a overs+flush draw. In addition, bb's weak lead would cause me to believe he either has a draw or you have him crushed--if he has an over set, its pretty nasty.


So, even though i really think we are giving our hand away on the flop, I would not be comfortable letting players draw on this flop, especially with decent odds. Couple that with the fact that many players just cant fold over pairs and draws at 1/2NL, I think a shove is best in this particular situation.

ness

[AmazingErvin]

You know if you just call your hand looks a lot like a flush draw. Problem is diamond kills your action/beats you if they have one so I guess raise it up.

[Freelancer]

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You know if you just call your hand looks a lot like a flush draw. Problem is diamond kills your action/beats you if they have one so I guess raise it up.

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I don't know about you but I don't coldcall with just about any draw in this spot.

[moira]

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I would say if there is a bigger set - you're doomed. I would not hesitate to get my stack in - most times you win.
If you re-raise now, I think you're hand is very well defined as a set and only few will pay you off for it. On the other hand there is a flush draw on the board, so by just calling you are giving good odds to a draw.
So I think I would re-raise in this situation. Probably even a min-raise might be possible here, but in most cases I'll raise to 85$ or so.

[ZingyDNA]

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As long as you dont fold its hard to mess up this hand. TBH I dont like a huge RR because you might get a fold from BB.

Maybe make it 75?

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I think it's quite clear at least one of them has an overpair. There is 50bbs in the pot already so i wouldn't mind picking it up. Since you go broke either way if set over set, why not stick it in? His calling range is wider on the flop.

[orange]

Think and call with your 'flush draw'. I think 3bet is okay too.

[SEABEAST]

I just call here because I think overpairs are much more likely to shove either the flop or a safe turn than call an over-shove in this spot on the flop, and I want all the moneys.

[mayday4379]

I call. BB's weak ass lead bet is either AA/KK or air. If its AA/KK and it gets back to him he's thinking "No cheap flush draw" and he pushes. People believe AA on the flop is the nuts. If its air, BBs not calling your raise anyway and he folds. Calling gives the BB (PFR) the opportunity to reraise and trap UTG into calling BBs raise, then your push.

[Percy101]

I flat call; give BB a chance to push.